Bristolhibby Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 This is getting out of hand. http://www.faw.cymru/en/news/fa-wales-statement/?back=/en/news/&pos=1 J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bristolhibby said: This is getting out of hand. It's been out of hand for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 It's the fans in the stands that is crazy. Whats the FAW supposed to do, rip poppies off of everyone's chest? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bristolhibby said: It's the fans in the stands that is crazy. Whats the FAW supposed to do, rip poppies off of everyone's chest? J That's strict liability. Celtic got fined for fans flying Palestine flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 I see where you are going. But is the annual wearing of a Poppy in all walks of life across the country the same as waving many flags in response to actual live Israeli bombing of Palestinian territory the same? Seems that FIFA/UEFA believe it to be the same. Not sure the majority of the British public see it the same though. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bristolhibby said: Not sure the majority of the British public see it the same though. Majority of British public seems to be tubes to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bristolhibby said: I see where you are going. But is the annual wearing of a Poppy in all walks of life across the country the same as waving many flags in response to actual live Israeli bombing of Palestinian territory the same? Seems that FIFA/UEFA believe it to be the same. Not sure the majority of the British public see it the same though. J What "the majority of the British Public see" is completely and utterly irrelevant. It's not 1950 and Britannia doesn't rule the waves. Maybe if successive British Government didn't turn the poppy in to a political symbol, this would never have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, Parklife said: What "the majority of the British Public see" is completely and utterly irrelevant. Surely what the public see and want to do in this situation is absolute? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, BlueGaz said: Surely what the public see and want to do in this situation is absolute? In terms of FIFA rules, which FAW have been charged for breaking, it is utterly irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Parklife said: In terms of FIFA rules, which FAW have been charged for breaking, it is utterly irrelevant. Yep, give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just now, BlueGaz said: Yep, give you that. Which is what my initial post meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just now, Parklife said: Which is what my initial post meant. I know. Must keep up !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Has any country just refused to pay a FIFA fine? If so, what is the consequence? Also, what would be the consequence if 3 Associations refused to pay? While I'm asking questions, I assume their was not a single Poppy at Northern Irelands game v Azerbaijan either on the pitch or in the stands. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bristolhibby said: While I'm asking questions, I assume their was not a single Poppy at Northern Irelands game v Azerbaijan either on the pitch or in the stands. J The IFA are being investigated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Bizarrely this seems to be one particular issue that unites all the British and Irish FAs (IFA not FAI (who are also under investigation for their centenary embriodary)). FIFA trying to raise the stakes and take shots at the FAs that they believe wield too much power in the game and should be one association? Or are they just standing by the letter of their own laws? I guess this isn't going to go away quietly, whatever you think about the Poppy. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Did the Spanish, French or Norwegians display poppies at their games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbear Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 55 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Did the Spanish, French or Norwegians display poppies at their games. I doubt if they wear a poppy in Spain, being neutral - it was more a 'Commonwealth' thing I believe - Canada, USA, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia....? In France they wear the blue cornflower - "le bleuet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: Did the Spanish, French or Norwegians display poppies at their games. The Italians would have waved white flags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 If we do get punished by FIFA over poppies, should we threaten to boycott the World Cup Finals ?? or maybe, like there is in boxing, could the 4 home nations form a new World Football body? We could be straight into the semis !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Scotland have been successfully boycotting for nearly 20 years now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, slasher said: Scotland have been successfully boycotting for nearly 20 years now ? If that's yer patter that's yer patter ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 15 hours ago, Bristolhibby said: Bizarrely this seems to be one particular issue that unites all the British and Irish FAs (IFA not FAI (who are also under investigation for their centenary embriodary)). FIFA trying to raise the stakes and take shots at the FAs that they believe wield too much power in the game and should be one association? Or are they just standing by the letter of their own laws? I guess this isn't going to go away quietly, whatever you think about the Poppy. J Quite obviously it's the latter. The FA and SFA were told if they pressed ahead with it they'd be breaking the rules and would face punishment. I don't quite know why anyone would think anything different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 37 minutes ago, Parklife said: Quite obviously it's the latter. The FA and SFA were told if they pressed ahead with it they'd be breaking the rules and would face punishment. I don't quite know why anyone would think anything different. And the Welsh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 17 hours ago, Parklife said: That's strict liability. Celtic got fined for fans flying Palestine flags. Why is every club in the UK (probably) not being investigated for fans wearing poppies in the stand, the week before? Or is it only something that can't happen at an international game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 44 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Why is every club in the UK (probably) not being investigated for fans wearing poppies in the stand, the week before? Or is it only something that can't happen at an international game? If it was just that, i doubt there'd have been any investigation. It'll be more to do with poppy card displays in the stand, i'd have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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