Toepoke Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Absolutely horrific stuff that's come to light... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38093957 Like Savile, you wonder how this has stayed under wraps for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 given the "banter" in the dressing room, i can imagine why they kept quiet especially the football terraces as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Really makes you wonder about Gary Speed and what demons he had. Shocking stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 16 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Really makes you wonder about Gary Speed and what demons he had. Shocking stuff. Is this some sort of rumour or made up? Probably not right to link the two without and basis to it tbh. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's turning into Jimmy Saville all over again. Gordon Taylor was on the news talking about how there was rumours years ago. Why wait till now to do something about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Tartan Army (Borders) Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Speed was coached by Barry Bennell - the Crewe coach who is being accused (having previously served time for it) of molesting young players. However, there has been no evidence he was one of his victims. I would recommend you read journalist Danny Taylor who broke the story last week in Guardian - he is a superb journalist before this, but his standing after uncovering this scandal has increased further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Its pretty clear this isn't going to start and end at Barry Bennell. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a Saville-type individual - ie, widely known and well respected - individual implicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 5 hours ago, aaid said: Its pretty clear this isn't going to start and end at Barry Bennell. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a Saville-type individual - ie, widely known and well respected - individual protected. Fixed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Bennell taken to hospital. Suspected suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Ormond said: Bennell taken to hospital. Suspected suicide. Attempted suicide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just now, Toepoke said: Attempted suicide? It would seem so. Pish wording from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Anybody seen the last dozen or so of Eric Bristow's Twitter remarks about this tonight? FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, Ormond said: Anybody seen the last dozen or so of Eric Bristow's Twitter remarks about this tonight? FFS. Ooft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 34 minutes ago, Ormond said: Anybody seen the last dozen or so of Eric Bristow's Twitter remarks about this tonight? FFS. Chris Miller Verified account @WindyCOYS @ericbristow MBE stands for MASSIVE BELLEND ERIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Folk will start coming out now saying they knew it was going on. Gordon Taylor said last week he heard rumours. Why he didn't investigate it at the time only he knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Re the Bristow comments on this - Sky have said they will no longer be using him on their darts coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, morrie21 said: Re the Bristow comments on this - Sky have said they will no longer be using him on their darts coverage His views were a bit out of touch. Although the context they've been put in by the media actually make them sound even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: His views were a bit out of touch. Although the context they've been put in by the media actually make them sound even worse. "a bit out of touch"? They're disgusting. Attempting to shame the victims of child abuse is more than out of touch. The media hasn't had to do anything to show Bristow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, Parklife said: "a bit out of touch"? They're disgusting. Attempting to shame the victims of child abuse is more than out of touch. The media hasn't had to do anything to show Bristow up. His tweet apologising for using the wrong word just made things worse. Has he come out and said he was hacked yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just now, Stewart_Aberdeen said: His tweet apologising for using the wrong word just made things worse. Has he come out and said he was hacked yet? Yeah. To be fair, using a homophobic slur to describe a paedophile is one of the things he should be apologising for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 4 hours ago, sbcmfc said: His views were a bit out of touch. Although the context they've been put in by the media actually make them sound even worse. Shocking comments from Bristow. They ignore the fact that child abuse is all about power and control, and his comments will do nothing to help the thousands of men and women all over the country who have struggled with these terrible 'secrets' for years. And comparing paedophilia with homosexuality is laughable ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Bristow is just demonstrating why these things were taboo for men for so long because his was the prevailing attitude. Men are only 'allowed' to be the perpetrators of sexual abuse in society's eyes never the victim. I've seen it on here (from women) with the attitude that totally discounts the possibility that men are also as significantly (if not equally) the victim of rape as women (when for example prison rape is taken into account and underreported male rape which must be huge given twats like Bristow's old school attitude plus the abuse of boys which seems more common amongst the elite than girls reading the papers). This was the prevailing attitude in the 70's / 80's, thick macho boorish. "Why did you not kill him then" (insinuation that you are weak or a secret 'poof' who enjoyed it". It is worse than the short-skirt-she-invited-it stuff. Far more insidious and long lasting and here we are now in 2016 ...and it is men in need of a masculinist movement. All that church rape was against boys it seemed mostly. Takes ages for a man to get the courage to speak and so few do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just read Bristows comments, to be honest, I dont find them that surprising, but Im amazed he thought he could say them in public. If it was an old codger down a pub, youd kinda expect it. Dont believe him for one minute when he says it was paedo not poof, if he does mean it however, then thats worse, he is practically associated all gay men with paedophiles. He seems like a lovely bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, kumnio said: Just read Bristows comments, to be honest, I dont find them that surprising, but Im amazed he thought he could say them in public. If it was an old codger down a pub, youd kinda expect it. Dont believe him for one minute when he says it was paedo not poof, if he does mean it however, then thats worse, he is practically associated all gay men with paedophiles. He seems like a lovely bloke. He actually deleted the worst ones last night too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Aye don't find his views surprising, although surely he didn't think he could make them public and expect to keep his job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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