Architects and engineers 9/11

[Scotty CTA]

Seriously?

 

Edited December 14, 2016 by Scotty CTA

[Scotty CTA]

[Mitre]

FFS 

[Kirk]

On 12/12/2016 at 11:23 PM, phart said:

Apologies i made an assumption, i was wrong.

What hit it then?or caused the damage and where did the passengers on flight 77 go?

So wheres the evidence of the plane? bodies, luggage etc etc? 

[hunchy]

I do question the passenger plane hitting the pentagon. The photos I have seen only show a few bits of supposed aircraft parts, I also haven't seen a picture showing a hole big enough to be caused by a jumbo jet. The pictures showing just before the collapse show a hoe that would avebeen made by a much smaler airframe. Don't get me wrong I dont believe to the same level as good old Scotty but I do think the official line is gash

[thplinth]

Campo, Omar 
Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 
          "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here." 
"`Everyone was screaming, crying, running. It's like a war zone'," by Julian Borger, Duncan Campbell, Charlie Porter and Stuart Millar, The Guardian, 9/12/01 
 

Cissell, James R. 
As former Cincinnatian James R. Cissell sat in traffic on a Virginia interstate by the Pentagon . . . he saw the blur of a commercial jet and wondered why it was flying so low. "Right about the time it was crossing over the highway, it kind of dawned on me what was happening," said Cissell . . . 
          In the next blink of an eye, he realized he had a front-row seat to history, as the plane plowed into the Pentagon, sending a fireball exploding into the air and scattering debris -- including a tire rim suspected of belonging to the airplane -- past his car. . . . 
          "Out of my peripheral vision," Cissell said, "I saw this plane coming in and it was low -- and getting lower. 
          "If you couldn't touch it from standing on the highway, you could by standing on your car." . . . 
          He remembers the helipad the plane flew over before smacking into the Pentagon was close enough to him that "I could have thrown a baseball at it and hit it." . . . 
          "It came in in a perfectly straight line," he said. 
          "It didn't slow down. I want to say it accelerated. It just shot straight in. 
"`I saw the faces of some of the passengers'," by Kimball Perry, Cincinnati Post, 9/12/01 

Dubill, Bob 
Every morning for years Bob Dubill drove past the Pentagon on his way to work at USA Today. 
          He was passing the building the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when he saw a jetliner fly over the roadway. It filled his field of vision. The jet was 40-feet off the ground speeding toward the Pentagon. 
          "The wheels were up and I knew that this plane was not heading for National Airport," he said. "This plane was going to slam into the Pentagon. I steeled myself for the explosion." 
"St. Bona Pulitzer winners share 9/11 experiences," by John T. Eberth, The Times Herald (Olean, NY), 9/19/02 
 

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Eiden, Steve 
Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. . . . He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. 
          "You could almost see the people in the windows," he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit. 
"Sept. 11, the Day America Changed," The Baxter Bulletin, 2001, 
DEAD LINK: http://www.baxterbulletin.com/ads/chronology2001/page2.html 

Eberle, Bobby 
The route from where I'm staying to my conference hotel runs right by the Pentagon. As we slowly crept along in traffic at about 9:30 am, we rounded a bend and had the Pentagon in our sites -- right in front of us. . . . 
          Riding in a convertable with the top down, I then heard a tremendously loud noise from behind me and to my left. I looked back and saw a jet airliner flying very low and very fast. It's amazing what can run through your mind in just a matter of seconds. As a pilot, I can't help but look at an airplane and think about airplane topics. . . . 
          The aircraft was so very low -- as an aircraft would be on its final approach to an airport. However, if you have watched any aircraft come in for a landing, even though the aircraft is descending, it is angled up slightly. This aircraft was angled downward. In addition, landing gear would also be visible on a aircraft so low and so near landing. This aircraft had its landing gear retracted. Finally, an aircraft on final approach is traveling rather slowly. This aircraft sped by very loudly and very quickly. 
"Eyewitness to Tragedy," by Bobby Eberle, Opinion Central - GOPUSA.com, 9/12/01 

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Elgas, Penny 
Traffic was at a standstill. I heard a rumble, looked out my driver's side window and realized that I was looking at the nose of an airplane coming straight at us from over the road (Columbia Pike) that runs perpendicular to the road I was on. The plane just appeared there- very low in the air, to the side of (and not much above) the CITGO gas station . . . 
          . . . I saw the plane coming in slow motion toward my car and then it banked in the slightest turn in front of me, toward the heliport. In the nano-second that the plane was directly over the cars in front of my car, the plane seemed to be not more than 80 feet off the ground and about 4-5 car lengths in front of me. It was far enough in front of me that I saw the end of the wing closest to me and the underside of the other wing as that other wing rocked slightly toward the ground. I remember recognizing it as an American Airlines plane -- I could see the windows and the color stripes. And I remember thinking that it was just like planes in which I had flown many times . . . 
          . . . At the second that I saw the plane, my visual senses took over completely and I did not hear or feel anything -- not the roar of the plane, or wind force, or impact sounds. 
          The plane seemed to be floating as if it were a paper glider and I watched in horror as it gently rocked and slowly glided straight into the Pentagon. At the point where the fuselage hit the wall, it seemed to simply melt into the building. I saw a smoke ring surround the fuselage as it made contact with the wall. It appeared as a smoke ring that encircled the fuselage at the point of contact and it seemed to be several feet thick. I later realized that it was probably the rubble of churning bits of the plane and concrete. The churning smoke ring started at the top of the fuselage and simultaneously wrapped down both the right and left sides of the fuselage to the underside, where the coiling rings crossed over each other and then coiled back up to the top. Then it started over again -- only this next time, I also saw fire, glowing fire in the smoke ring. At that point, the wings disappeared into the Pentagon. And then I saw an explosion and watched the tail of the plane slip into the building. 
"Statement from Penny Elgas - Personal Experience At The Pentagon on September 11, 2001," Supporting Material - September 11: Bearing Witness to History, National Museum of American History 

Kean, Terrance 
Terrance Kean, 35, who lives in a 14-story building nearby, heard the loud jet engines and glanced out his window. 
          "I saw this very, very large passenger jet, . . . It just plowed right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico. And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere. . . . It was very sort of surreal." 
"Loud Boom, Then Flames In Hallways - Pentagon Employees Flee Fire, Help Rescue Injured Co-Workers," by Mary Beth Sheridan, Washington Post, 9/12/01 

Marra, David 
David Marra, 23, an information-technology specialist, had turned . . . off an I-395 exit to the highway just west of the Pentagon when he saw an American Airlines jet swooping in, its wings wobbly, looking like it was going to slam right into the Pentagon: "It was 50 ft. off the deck when he came in. It sounded like the pilot had the throttle completely floored. The plane rolled left and then rolled right. Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground." There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cartwheeled into the building. 
"Special Report: The Day of the Attack," by Nancy Gibbs, Time, 9/12/01 

 

There are dozens more of these...dozens.

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Sucherman, Joel 
USAToday.com Multimedia Editor, saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. 
          It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. . . . 
          "My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction," Sucherman said. "It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at a steep angle -- almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its target and staying dead on course." 
"Journalist Witnesses Pentagon Crash," by John Dodge, eweek.com, 9/13/01 
. . . There was a sonic boom and looking straight ahead there was a jet, what looked to be an American Airlines jet, probably a 757. And it came screaming across the highway, it was Route 110, on the west side of the Pentagon. The plane went west to east, hit the west side of the Pentagon. Immediately flames were strewing up into the air. There was white smoke. And then within seconds, thick black smoke. Everybody got out of their cars. People were shocked. 
          Then there was another plane that was off to the southwest and that made a beeline straight up into the sky and then angled off and we weren't sure if that was going to come around and make another hit or if it was just trying to get out of the way. That disappeared and we didn't see it again. 

 Interviewer: Describe the first plane again. You say it was a commercial jet. Do you know how many engines? 
          I did not see the engines. I saw the body and the tail. And it was a silver jet with the markings along the windows that spoke to me as an American Airlines jet. This was not a commercial, a, excuse me, a business jet, right. It was not a Lear jet, a Gulfstream, something like that. It was a bigger plane than that. 
Real Player (Video): "Joel Sucherman, Assistant Managing Editor of USATODAY.com," 2001

McClellan, Kenneth 
The crew of a military cargo plane watched as a hijacked airliner plunged into the Pentagon, a defense official confirmed Tuesday. 
          The report confirms the eyewitness account of two Hampton Roads residents who were near the Pentagon that day and said they saw a second plane flying near the doomed passenger jet. 
          A C-130 cargo plane had departed Andrews Air Force Base en route to Minnesota that morning and reported seeing an airliner heading into Washington "at an unusual angle," said Lt. Col. Kenneth McClellan, a Pentagon spokesman. 
          Air-traffic control officials instructed the propeller-powered cargo plane "to let us know where it's going," McClellan said. 
          But, he said, there was no attempt to intercept the hijacked airliner. 
          "A C-130 obviously goes slower than a jet," McClellan said. . . . 
          The C-130 pilot "followed the aircraft and reported it was heading into the Pentagon," he said. 
          "He saw it crash into the building. He saw the fireball." . . . 
          In the days immediately following the Sept. 11 hijackings, the Pentagon had no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were classified by the Air National Guard, the Pentagon spokesman said. 
          "It was very hard to get any information out," McClellan said. 
"C-130 crew saw Pentagon strike, official confirms," by Terry Scanlon and David Lerman, Daily Press, 10/17/01 

[Parklife]

"There were no planes" 

"A plane can't go through steel"

Belting lines  

[thplinth]

Middleton, William Sr. 
The worker, William Middleton Sr., was running his street sweeper through the cemetery when he heard a harsh whistling sound overhead. Middleton looked up and spotted a commercial jet whose pilot seemed to be fighting with his own craft. 
          Middleton said the plane was no higher than the tops of telephone poles as it lurched toward the Pentagon. The jet accelerated in the final few hundred yards before it tore into the building. 
"Army unit piecing together accounts of Pentagon attack," by Milan Simonich, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/20/01 
Milburn, Kirk 
"I was right underneath the plane," said Kirk Milburn, a construction supervisor for Atlantis Co., who was on the Arlington National Cemetery exit of Interstate 395 when he said he saw the plane heading for the Pentagon. "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles," said Milburn. "It was like a WHOOOSH whoosh, then there was fire and smoke, then I heard a second explosion." 
"`Extensive Casualties' in Wake of Pentagon Attack," by Barbara Vobejda, Washington Post, 9/11/01 

Mosley, James 
Window washer James Mosley was four stories up on a scaffold outside the Navy Annex building abutting the Pentagon when the plane flew overhead. 
          "The building started shaking, and I looked over and saw this big silver plane run into the side of the Pentagon," said the 57-year old. "It almost knocked me off. I couldn't believe it." 
"Scene at the Pentagon After Terrorist Attack: `A War Zone'," by Glen Justice, Laura Smitherman and Tony Capaccio, with reporting by Dan Goldstein and John Rega, Bloomberg, 9/11/01 
Narayanan, Vin 
At 9:35 a.m., I pulled alongside the Pentagon. With traffic at a standstill, my eyes wandered around the road, looking for the cause of the traffic jam. Then I looked up to my left and saw an American Airlines jet flying right at me. The jet roared over my head, clearing my car by about 25 feet. The tail of the plane clipped the overhanging exit sign above me as it headed straight at the Pentagon. 
          The windows were dark on American Airlines Flight 77 as it streaked toward its target, only 50 yards away. 
          The hijacked jet slammed into the Pentagon at a ferocious speed. But the Pentagon's wall held up like a champ. It barely budged as the nose of the plane curled upwards and crumpled before exploding into a massive fireball. . . . 
          I think I saw the bodies of passengers burning. But I'm not sure. It could have been Pentagon workers. It could have been my mind playing tricks on me. I hope it was my mind playing tricks on me. 
"`Tomorrow always belongs to us'," by Vin Narayanan, USATODAY.com, 9/17/01 

[hunchy]

OK plinth you believe these to be creditable witnesses so what about those who have claimed to have seen ghosts, bigfoot, aliens, yeti etc. Could it not be that they are a mix of plants and people who in the brief flash of a sighting they had thought they had seen a jumbo jet when in fact it was a smaller aircraft possibly painted to look like the targeted plane

[thplinth]

Owens, Mary Ann 
Mary Ann Owens, a journalist with Gannett News Service . . . was driving along by the side of the Pentagon, on September 11, 2001, when a hijacked jet screamed overhead and ploughed into it. . . . 
          THE sound of sudden and certain death roared in my ears as I sat lodged in gridlock on Washington Boulevard, next to the Pentagon on September 11. . . . this engine noise was different. It was too sudden, too loud, too encompassing. 
          Looking up didn't tell me what type of plane it was because it was so close I could only see the bottom. Realising the Pentagon was its target, I didn't think the careering, full-throttled craft would get that far. Its downward angle was too sharp, its elevation of maybe 50 feet, too low. Street lights toppled as the plane barely cleared the Interstate 395 overpass. 
          The thought that I was about to die was immediate and certain. This plane was going to hit me along with all the other commuters trapped on Washington Boulevard. 
          Gripping the steering wheel of my vibrating car, I involuntarily ducked as the wobbling plane thundered over my head. Once it passed, I raised slightly and grimaced as the left wing dipped and scraped the helicopter area just before the nose crashed into the southwest wall of the Pentagon. 
          Still gripping the wheel, I could feel both the car and my heart jolt at the moment of impact. An instant inferno blazed about 125 yards from me. The plane, the wall and the victims disappeared under coal-black smoke, three-storey tall flames and intense heat. 
"The day thought I was going to die", by Mary Ann Owens, This is Local London, 9/11/02 

Ryan, James 
I live a couple of miles from the Pentagon and my car wasn't starting so I was looking for a garage, a mechanic to fix my car. This place was on Columbia Pike. So I went to Columbia Pike. And so I left there and then that's when I saw what I saw; I saw the plane, was on my way home. 
          What made me look up was the sound. Because typically you hear planes flying over and they make a steady sound like "shhhhhhhhhhh," when they're coming to land, it's pretty steady. Well I heard [making a buzzing sound that drops in pitch] and so I looked up. And when I looked up . . . on my left . . . I see an American Airlines plane, silver plane, I could see "AA" on the tail. I noticed the landing gear was up. And the airport's over here . . . the planes are landing this way, typically [pointing in the opposite direction]. And so he's going in the wrong direction. 
          Meanwhile I had just heard about what happened at the World Trade Center. So . . . immediately I thought, `This is all wrong. Everything about it is wrong. The sound of the engine is wrong. The place of the plane is wrong. It's way too low, it's right here and there's no landing gear down, so how can it land?' 
          Question: How high he was? 
          RJ: Within a hundred feet. It was very low. At that point he tilted his wings, this way and then this way. Kind of about this speed. He kind of did like that and it was, the plane was slow. So that happened concurrently with the engines going down. . . . and then straightened out sort of suddenly and hit full gas. . . . It was so loud it hurt my ears. It was just so loud. . . . and he just went straight in at that point and I just screamed . . . because I thought, there was nothing I could do, I wanted to throw a rock at it or something. It was awful. 
          Question: And you saw it hit the Pentagon? 
          RJ: No at that point it went down because I was approaching a hill. And at that point it went straight down over the hill and a moment later I heard this terrific boom!, a very deep boom! sound, and then immediately I saw all the orange and yellow sort of ball of fire and then thick black smoke go up in to the air. . . . 
          The plane was low enough that I could see the windows in the plane, I could see every detail of the plane. In my head I have ingrained forever this image of every detail of that plane. . . . 
          It was a silver plane, American Airlines plane, I recognized it immediately as a passenger plane. 
Real Player (video): "Ryan", Digipresse, 5/22//02 (low bandwidth recording) 

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Skarlet 
As I came up along the Pentagon I saw helicopters. . . . 
          Then I saw the plane. There were only a few cars on the road, we all stopped. I know I wanted to believe that plane was making a low descent into National Airport, but it was nearly on the road. And it was headed straight for the building. It made no sense. The pilot didn't seem to be planning to pull up anytime soon. 
          It was there. A huge jet. Then it was gone. A massive hole in the side of the Pentagon gushed smoke. The noise was beyond description. The smell seemed to singe the inside of my nose. . . . 
          I called my boss. . . . "Something hit the Pentagon. It must have been a helicopter." I knew that wasn't true, but I heard myself say it. I heard myself believe it, if only for a minute. 
          "Buildings don't eat planes. That plane, it just vanished. There should have been parts on the ground. It should have rained parts on my car. The airplane didn't crash. Where are the parts?" That's the conversation I had with myself on the way to work. . . . 
          I spent an eternity in my car. I couldn't roll up the windows, the car smelled like the Inferno. Concrete dust coats the outside of the car, turning it a weird color. . . . 
          . . . The gash in the building looks so small on TV. The massiveness of the structure lost in the tight shots of the fire. There was a plane. It didn't go over the building. It went into the building. 
           . . . It's weird to watch it on TV while the same smoke drifts by your windows. 
          I've showered and showered. Ultimately, I think I'm going to throw away my clothes. I don't think the smell will ever come out. 
"Rerun: September 11, 2001, by Skarlet (webmaster of punkprincess.com), Overly Caffeinated: The Punk Princess Weblog, 9/11/01 

Timmerman, Tim 
A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball." 
          Smoke and flames poured out of a large hole punched into the side of the Pentagon. . . . A piece of twisted aircraft fuselage lay nearby. 
"`Everyone was screaming, crying, running. It's like a war zone'," by Julian Borger, Duncan Campbell, Charlie Porter and Stuart Millar, The Guardian, 9/12/01 

Wallace, Alan 
Minutes later, Wallace and his buddy Mark Skipper looked up and saw the gleam of a silver jetliner. But it was flying too low. Maybe less than 25 feet off the ground. And it was heading right at them. 
          "I yelled to Mark, `Let's go!'" 
          He bolted to the right, and a second later felt the searing heat of the blast behind him. He hit the ground and rolled under a parked van as a fire engulfed his fire truck, then blew through the firehouse. 
          Wallace got back to his feet, saw Skipper had escaped, then rushed to the scorched fire truck to see if it would run, but the truck only belched fire. It wouldn't move. So Wallace switched on the truck's radio. 
          "Foam 61 to Fort Myer," he said. "We have had a commercial carrier crash into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side. The crew is OK. The airplane was a 757 Boeing or a 320 Airbus." . . . 
          With bits of cloth and fiberglass still raining down outside the blackened section of the Pentagon, Alan Wallace's instincts focused on trying to help somehow. The truck was useless. So he dashed for his gear inside the torched firehouse. His boots were filled with debris. His suspenders were on fire. 
          Wallace and two other firefighters rushed to a window, where Pentagon employees were crammed together, frantic to escape the darkness. 
          Fire burst through the windows above them. The ground burned near Wallace with heat so hot he thought several times that his pants were on fire. 
"9/11 Remembered - Anniversary of Agony," by Ryan Alessi and M.E. Sprengelmeyer, Scripps Howard News Service / SanAngeloStandardTimes.com, 9/11/02 
Wheelhouse, Keith 
Her brother, [Keith] Wheelhouse, of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C-130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon. 
          As the hijacked jet started its descent, "it's like it stepped on its gas pedal," Wheelhouse said. "As soon as he did that, the second plane banked off to the west." 
          Wheelhouse's account of a second plane is unlike everything else that has been reported about the attack. Some initial reports on television said a second airliner might be headed for the Pentagon, but authorities later dismissed that. 
"`Horrific' Image Still Haunts Surry Woman - Disaster Viewed From Arlington," by Terry Scanlon, The Daily Press, 9/14/01 
Zakhem, Madelyn 
Madelyn Zakhem, executive secretary at the STC, had just stepped outside for a break and was seated on a bench when she heard what she thought was a jet fighter directly overhead. It wasn't. It was an airliner coming straight up Columbia Pike at tree-top level. "It was huge! It was silver. It was low -- unbelievable! I could see the cockpit. I fell to the ground. . . . I was crying and scared," Zakhem recalls. 
"Northern Va. Braced for Another Attack!," The Friday Report, 9/21/01 

[phart]

Luggage and everything was found as was DNA of all the passengers.

fecking faking planes going into buildings is a damn sight harder than actually doing it.

Plus there were other hijack attempts thwarted on 9/11 and days after, which i bet nobody knows about, cause thet dont have access to good primary information.

This is amazing disinformation whoever did the missle into the pentagon, it's the back and to the left of it's time.

[Scotty CTA]

32 minutes ago, phart said:

Luggage and everything was found as was DNA of all the passengers.

We were only told that.

They never showed us any proof.

32 minutes ago, phart said:

fecking faking planes going into buildings is a damn sight harder than actually doing it.

It's not.

Running a computer program is easier than taking the risk of human error out in the field (plus it pretty much guarantees the outcome).

32 minutes ago, phart said:

Plus there were other hijack attempts thwarted on 9/11 and days after, which i bet nobody knows about, cause thet dont have access to good primary information.

These stories are part and parcel with such events (like the 'plans' to kill Kennedy in Chicago or Houston, etc.) but it was always going to be Dallas on the 22nd.

57 minutes ago, phart said:

This is amazing disinformation whoever did the missle into the pentagon, it's the back and to the left of it's time.

I interviewed Pearce Allman (an eyewitness to the JFK head shot) on November 22nd, 2013.

He told me that he heard three shots.

He is a gentleman, but I believe him to be mistaken.

[Scotty CTA]

Do we agree that there was no plane at Shanksville?

[Scotty CTA]

5 hours ago, thplinth said:

There are dozens more of these...dozens.

I believe you. (I just don't believe them).

[Scotty CTA]

Green screens, and CGI only come 'alive' on television or at the movies...

... but could they have advanced to the point of outside 3D recordable holographic technology?

[Scotty CTA]

What I find really strange is that the man on street level doesn't react to the noise of the approaching plane (which would have sounded as if it were 2 feet above his head) but only to the explosion...

 

[Scotty CTA]

So this 767 passenger jet comes roaring in towards the South Tower, then crashes into it above this poor guy's head and he doesn't even react.

Look at the freeze frame...

No reaction to the roar of the approaching passenger jet.

And no reaction to the passenger jet impacting with the South Tower.

He does however react to the explosion.

The plane is fake, and the explosion is real.

[Ally Bongo]

5 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said:

So this 767 passenger jet comes roaring in towards the South Tower, then crashes into it above this poor guy's head and he doesn't even react.

Look at the freeze frame...

No reaction to the roar of the approaching passenger jet.

And no reaction to the passenger jet impacting with the South Tower.

He does however react to the explosion.

The plane is fake, and the explosion is real.

FFS

Have you ever been to an airshow ?

You do not hear the jet planes approaching due to the speed of sound - you hear it when it has went past you

Edited December 14, 2016 by Ally Bongo

[Guest BlueGaz]

I think he looks up at the same point as most would look up.

[jailender]

But why was he being filmed from that angle at that time ?

Edited December 14, 2016 by jailender
crap spelling

[Guest BlueGaz]

Good point.  Assuming it is part of a longer film - may give the answer, I don't know.

Edited December 14, 2016 by BlueGaz