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http://www.espnfc.com/story/3019319/chelsea-closing-in-on-rangers-teenager-billy-gilmour-sources

 

"Chelsea are set to beat a host of Europe's top clubs to the signing of Rangers youngster Billy Gilmour, sources from both clubs have told ESPN FC.

Scotland under-16 midfielder Gilmour is regarded as one of the best youth talents in Europe after impressing for club and country in the last 12 months.

Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal, Barcelona and Bayern Munich have all been credited with an interest in Gilmour after sending scouts to watch the 15-year-old in action."

 

Anyone know much about him or seen him play? Can we get excited about this lad?

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5 minutes ago, Duncan Blackheart said:

Their youth policy seems to be more of a numbers game than anything else. 

I suppose it is in a lot of places, but definitely Chelsea in particular.

You can say that again !

They've got nearly forty players out on loan just now. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_F.C.#Out_on_loan

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21 minutes ago, Duncan Blackheart said:

Their youth policy seems to be more of a numbers game than anything else. 

I suppose it is in a lot of places, but definitely Chelsea in particular.

Chelsea's youth system is not wholly set up to provide players for the Chelsea first team, that is only one of the objectives.

The other two major objectives are to provide a revenue stream via either loan fees or transfers and also to prevent rival clubs from having control over promising young players.

Chelsea have a development squad - which is officially under 23 but in reality the players are a lot younger, most of them are 18/19 and under.  They generally start to send players out on loan after that age - there are exceptions but that is the norm - these fall into two categories.  Firstly, those they've decided aren't good enough to make it as they just want to get them off the books so to speak.  Secondly those they want to develop and how they progress is dependent upon how successful those loans spells are.

There are a raft of players playing in the top European Leagues and for their countries who have come through the Chelsea youth system.

A young player joining Chelsea may have a slim chance of playing for the first team however they have a good chance - accepting all the things that can go wrong with young players - of having a very good pro-career.

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Aslong as he isn't a Feruz type then it's maybe not a bad thing.

Rangers are poor at bringing through young talent and Gauld is a good example of a move abroad not guaranteeing development.

Any move to a top English club will = Very little gametime even in a few years and muliple loans.

Promising to have a young talent linked with these sides though and if Bayern and Barcelona are watching him then it's definitely a good sign.

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11 minutes ago, ProudScot said:

Aslong as he isn't a Feruz type then it's maybe not a bad thing.

Rangers are poor at bringing through young talent and Gauld is a good example of a move abroad not guaranteeing development.

Any move to a top English club will = Very little gametime even in a few years and muliple loans.

Promising to have a young talent linked with these sides though and if Bayern and Barcelona are watching him then it's definitely a good sign.

Mark Warburton's Rangers?

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1 hour ago, ProudScot said:

 

Rangers are poor at bringing through young talent and Gauld is a good example of a move abroad not guaranteeing development.

 

gauld is now starting in the portuguese league all be it on loan, he isn't even 21 yet. you would have to be exceptional to be in the sporting team at 20 with them almost neck and neck with benfica this season

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3 hours ago, LewisEDI said:

gauld is now starting in the portuguese league all be it on loan, he isn't even 21 yet. you would have to be exceptional to be in the sporting team at 20 with them almost neck and neck with benfica this season

In line to start 8th straight first team match tonight. For a 20 year old that's not too bad

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12 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said:

He's playing tonight against his parent club in the cup and the quote above was tweeted by a Scottish Sun journalist about an hour ago. Do you disagree?

The Sun 'journalist' is categorically wrong in that case.

His current run of games started is the grand total of 1, so not even close.

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7 minutes ago, kumnio said:

The Sun 'journalist' is categorically wrong in that case.

His current run of games started is the grand total of 1, so not even close.

Disagree . He couldn't start last game coz it was league against Sporting but certainly started games before that. Not sure if 7 in a row though

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2 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said:

Disagree . He couldn't start last game coz it was league against Sporting but certainly started games before that. Not sure if 7 in a row though

Ok, lets assume that starting 8 games straight, doesnt actually mean that, it only means games he was eligible to start, why not, lets be liberal.

That now takes him up to 2 games started, if we include tonight, its now 3.

Of course, in reality, its quite different. His last 5 games were unused sub, started, ineligible, started, started.

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43 minutes ago, kumnio said:

Ok, lets assume that starting 8 games straight, doesnt actually mean that, it only means games he was eligible to start, why not, lets be liberal.

That now takes him up to 2 games started, if we include tonight, its now 3.

Of course, in reality, its quite different. His last 5 games were unused sub, started, ineligible, started, started.

This sounds right. Had a wee look at him on soccerway last week and pretty sure it had him down as 3 appearances this season with one booking.

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Ok starting 3 in a row. Maybe beginning to find his feet? Lot of positive comments from Portugal on twitter tonight including fans of his parent club. Someone comparing him to Modric. Nil nil when he goes off injured on 70 mins then Sporting score. Maybe he might come good after all

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This must be the annual ...'the old firm have a wonderkid 14 year old and he'll be brilliant for Scotland in the future'....thread.

We've had these twice a year on here since 1999 and the best the OF have produced is Danny Wilson and James Forrest.

Part of the problem in Scottish football is that nobody has a clue what a good footballer is.

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39 minutes ago, Rossy said:

This must be the annual ...'the old firm have a wonderkid 14 year old and he'll be brilliant for Scotland in the future'....thread.

We've had these twice a year on here since 1999 and the best the OF have produced is Danny Wilson and James Forrest.

Part of the problem in Scottish football is that nobody has a clue what a good footballer is.

To an extent you're correct.

A big problem is that once these boys are 17/18 they need first team exposure - which is rarely forthcoming at the old firm.

Maybe Brendan Rogers will buck this trend and give boys like Calvin Miller a chance given they will have the league sewn up in about February.

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1 hour ago, Rossy said:

This must be the annual ...'the old firm have a wonderkid 14 year old and he'll be brilliant for Scotland in the future'....thread.

We've had these twice a year on here since 1999 and the best the OF have produced is Danny Wilson and James Forrest.

Part of the problem in Scottish football is that nobody has a clue what a good footballer is.

You'd have a point, if wasn't for the fact that Aberdeen have about the worst record in. The top flight for producing Scottish Internationalists.  I could be wrong but I think the only player to come through the Aberdeen youth system in the last 20 years or so who could be considered even a semi-regular internationalist was Russell Anderson and even then he was largely a fringe player.

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Just now, ProudScot said:

To an extent you're correct.

A big problem is that once these boys are 17/18 they need first team exposure - which is rarely forthcoming at the old firm.

Maybe Brendan Rogers will buck this trend and give boys like Calvin Miller a chance given they will have the league sewn up in about February.

Googled Calvin Miller and got this

Celtic’s Calvin Miller: Named best young player in the world
0 Posted by Joseph Ruddy - 16/10/2013 - The Journal

God we're good at this

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The last time this came up about Calvin Miller, I'm sure it turned out that his progress was pretty good for his age and there was still plenty of time for him to make the breakthrough at celtic. Might be a bit harder now with some of the decent performances from the established players but surely Miller is still in with a shout of becoming a decent player/international caps etc ?

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