Fairbairn Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I seen this yesterday and it had me scratching my head for quite some time! Twin brothers Bill & Bob are born on the same day. Bill is born first but Bob is older. How is this possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) They baith hae my Mither? Some shaggger she wis. Ignore me. Edited January 4, 2017 by Ormond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Bill's born on February 29th, Bob on March 1st? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Maybe some ludicrously contrived situation where they are born on a plane flying across the international date line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Or there are actually two sets of twins with Bob and Bill being from different sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Ormond said: They baith hae my Mither? Some shaggger she wis. Ignore me. No 35 minutes ago, Stapes said: Bill's born on February 29th, Bob on March 1st? No, both born on the same day. 4 minutes ago, Alibi said: Maybe some ludicrously contrived situation where they are born on a plane flying across the international date line? No, but not that far away!! 3 minutes ago, Alibi said: Or there are actually two sets of twins with Bob and Bill being from different sets. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 The 1st one born, then the clocks go back an hour, and second born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Or cross a time zone between births where clocks go back 1 hr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Registrar recorded Bob 1st ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: The 1st one born, then the clocks go back an hour, and second born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 04/01/2017 at 11:56 AM, Fairbairn said: That wouldn't make him older. it would just mean he was born at an earlier time stamp on your chosen timeframe. Scientifically speaking, it would come down to how you define "older". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Bill is dead so bob is older than bill when he died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, fishcumnock said: Bill is dead so bob is older than bill when he died. I hope somebody broke the news to Bob, a bit more gently than that. Twins can be quite close. But at least that explanation is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: That wouldn't make him older. it would just mean he was born at an earlier time stamp on your chosen timeframe. Scientifically speaking, it would come down to how you define "older". Well to suit my agenda I define older as the time registered on Bill & Bob's birth certificates!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Well to suit my agenda I define older as the time registered on Bill & Bob's birth certificates!! Even if those birth certificates were wrong? The data on any bit of paper is only any good if the person who fills it in, knows how to do it properly. For your scenario to work, Bill would need to be born on the day the clocks change between 0000 hours and 0100 hours. Let's assume 0030. And let's assume that Bob was born 50 minutes later (ie after the clocks were changed). This would now be 0020. You might think that 0020 should be earlier than 0030 but in this case it isn't. The times should be recorded as 0030 BST and 0020 GMT. This a fine example of the importance of defining the units of measurement which are to be used. Many scientists get caught out with that one. Fish still wins the prize for the best answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 32 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Even if those birth certificates were wrong? The data on any bit of paper is only any good if the person who fills it in, knows how to do it properly. For your scenario to work, Bill would need to be born on the day the clocks change between 0000 hours and 0100 hours. Let's assume 0030. And let's assume that Bob was born 50 minutes later (ie after the clocks were changed). This would now be 0020. You might think that 0020 should be earlier than 0030 but in this case it isn't. The times should be recorded as 0030 BST and 0020 GMT. This a fine example of the importance of defining the units of measurement which are to be used. Many scientists get caught out with that one. Fish still wins the prize for the best answer. Sorry, according to sky news 74% of the united population agree with Fairbairn ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: Sorry, according to sky news 74% of the united population agree with Fairbairn ? It wouldn't be the first time that 74% of the population were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Orraloon said: Even if those birth certificates were wrong? The data on any bit of paper is only any good if the person who fills it in, knows how to do it properly. For your scenario to work, Bill would need to be born on the day the clocks change between 0000 hours and 0100 hours. Let's assume 0030. And let's assume that Bob was born 50 minutes later (ie after the clocks were changed). This would now be 0020. You might think that 0020 should be earlier than 0030 but in this case it isn't. The times should be recorded as 0030 BST and 0020 GMT. This a fine example of the importance of defining the units of measurement which are to be used. Many scientists get caught out with that one. Fish still wins the prize for the best answer. I cannae believe you took time out from telling the kids that Santa insnae real to type that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusseldorf mark Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I've got two nieces, they are sisters (to each other!) born almost at the same time, on the same day, same place, same mother, same father but they are not twins howzat then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartandon Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, dusseldorf mark said: I've got two nieces, they are sisters (to each other!) born almost at the same time, on the same day, same place, same mother, same father but they are not twins howzat then? same biological mother but different birth mothers. One sister carried by birth mother. Other sister carried by a surrogate who was implanted with a fertilised egg from the biological mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, dusseldorf mark said: I've got two nieces, they are sisters (to each other!) born almost at the same time, on the same day, same place, same mother, same father but they are not twins howzat then? They were born a year or two years or three years etc. apart. Edited January 6, 2017 by Alibi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusseldorf mark Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 nope, and nope, same womb at the same time, same year etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 A rare medical condition allowing her to get pregnant again while already pregnant. Both delivered at roughly the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 10:00 PM, dusseldorf mark said: I've got two nieces, they are sisters (to each other!) born almost at the same time, on the same day, same place, same mother, same father but they are not twins howzat then? A brother was born along with them so the 2 of them and him are triplets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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