kmcca5 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 http://mobile.seagulls.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/jack-harper-brighton-hove-albion-malaga-3501756.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well that's a bit of good news anyway Mid table aren't they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) get him in the squad get him in the squad ! shame he lost a year and a half of his career at brighton, and some people on here thought it was a good move Edited January 4, 2017 by LewisEDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, LewisEDI said: get him in the squad get him in the squad ! shame he lost a year and a half of his career at brighton, and some people on here thought it was a good move Settle down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 It was a good move sadly he just isn't good enough. Brighton are doing pretty well without him and they have a superb record in promoting academy talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Brighton was too cold for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Let's hope he progresses - I'd like to see more young Scottish players playing in Europe Burke Germany Gauld Portugal Harper Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I hope he improves. Reports down here said he lived on his xbox too much and just wasn't putting the effort in. There was talent there but nothe enough pace and wasnt physical robust or fit enough. One cracking goal but don't think he finished 90 mins the whole time he was at Brighton under 23s Edited January 5, 2017 by kmcca5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, kmcca5 said: I hope he improves. Reports down here said he lived on his xbox too much and just wasn't putting the effort in. There was talent there but nothe enough pace and wasnt physical robust or fit enough. One cracking goal but don't think he finished 90 mins the whole time he was at Brighton under 23s The annoying thing about that is that while its next to impossible to do anything about improving the talent by that point and difficult to do anything about pace, you can do something about strength and general levels of fitness but you need to be prepared to do the extra work and put the hard hours in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, aaid said: The annoying thing about that is that while its next to impossible to do anything about improving the talent by that point and difficult to do anything about pace, you can do something about strength and general levels of fitness but you need to be prepared to do the extra work and put the hard hours in. harper doesn't seem the type of person to lack effort at all, maybe just wasnt suited to chamopinship level physical football, he looks a technical player, delighted he has gone back to spain, should never have left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'd be very surprised if he ever plays for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, LewisEDI said: harper doesn't seem the type of person to lack effort at all, maybe just wasnt suited to chamopinship level physical football, he looks a technical player, delighted he has gone back to spain, should never have left If he hasn't got a basic level of fitness and strength then he won't be able to play in any major league anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, aaid said: If he hasn't got a basic level of fitness and strength then he won't be able to play in any major league anywhere in the world. a couple of posters on brightons forum suggested he wasnt strong enough, i doubt very much there is a fitness issue from a lack of effort from him, he struggled with injuries whilst at brighton. lets see how he gets on in spain, i also doubt he will play for scotland but good luck to him Edited January 5, 2017 by LewisEDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 39 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'd be very surprised if he ever plays for Scotland. Same but hope he does and good luck to the boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sounds like Sbragia had a point after all then? 'Runners' he was quoted as wanting in his team but if Harper is blowing oot his arse after 60 mins then it's little surprise he wasn't picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Worth noting he's gone to Malagueño, not Malaga, it's their 2nd team.So job number 1 is get into the Malagueño side and perform there, then get moved up to the proper Malaga team and play in la liga. Still, I think it's a good move for him. Clearly wasn't happening at Brighton, their formation doesn't really have a place for him and their league position makes it unlikely they'll experiment with personnel or formations. Fingers crossed he can get some game time and push on. Still only 20, so plenty of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 hours ago, andyD said: Worth noting he's gone to Malagueño, not Malaga, it's their 2nd team.So job number 1 is get into the Malagueño side and perform there, then get moved up to the proper Malaga team and play in la liga. Still, I think it's a good move for him. Clearly wasn't happening at Brighton, their formation doesn't really have a place for him and their league position makes it unlikely they'll experiment with personnel or formations. Fingers crossed he can get some game time and push on. Still only 20, so plenty of time. Agreed. Spanish B level is probably higher than Brighton under 23s, certainly a better style of football anyway. On another note - Feruz is playing regularly and playing well in Belgium. I think the chances of either of them making it to full international level is slim, but it is good to see him finally sticking in somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ProudScot said: On another note - Feruz is playing regularly and playing well in Belgium. he's made one sub appearance for 7mins in the last 6 games that i checked on scoccerway and that team has drawn 1 and lost the rest of them Edited January 6, 2017 by LewisEDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 06/01/2017 at 4:29 PM, LewisEDI said: he's made one sub appearance for 7mins in the last 6 games that i checked on scoccerway and that team has drawn 1 and lost the rest of them You sure? I thought he had played 10 games atleast this season?? Gutted.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 6 January 2017 at 3:30 PM, ProudScot said: Agreed. Spanish B level is probably higher than Brighton under 23s, certainly a better style of football anyway. The Spanish League system consists of three National leagues, La Liga, Segunda A, Segunda B. Then the Pyramid starts with 18 regional divisions. That's where Atletico Malagueno play. It's effectively Spanish non-league. I'd suggest that Brighton U23s is th a higher standard and a better technical level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 11:11 AM, aaid said: The Spanish League system consists of three National leagues, La Liga, Segunda A, Segunda B. Then the Pyramid starts with 18 regional divisions. That's where Atletico Malagueno play. It's effectively Spanish non-league. I'd suggest that Brighton U23s is th a higher standard and a better technical level. Brighton under 23's aren't even in the English league system though so you're reasoning is completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 hours ago, ProudScot said: Brighton under 23's aren't even in the English league system though so you're reasoning is completely wrong. Brighton U23s are in the second division of the professional development league and play U23 form the Premiership and the top championship teams. They are also playing alongside League 1 and 2 clubs in the EFL trophy. By your reasoning, the Essex Senior League is a higher level since its part of the English League system which is palpable nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 7:37 PM, aaid said: Brighton U23s are in the second division of the professional development league and play U23 form the Premiership and the top championship teams. They are also playing alongside League 1 and 2 clubs in the EFL trophy. By your reasoning, the Essex Senior League is a higher level since its part of the English League system which is palpable nonsense. It was your reasoning not mine. He will be playing at no poorer level in a county that probably suits him better given his development - Plus probably more chance of a promotion to the first team there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 10 hours ago, ProudScot said: You sure? I thought he had played 10 games atleast this season?? Gutted.. been sent back now... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/403884/ex-celtic-kid-islam-feruz-back-at-chelsea-after-a-fifth-club-terminate-loan-deal-early/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 9:24 PM, LewisEDI said: been sent back now... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/403884/ex-celtic-kid-islam-feruz-back-at-chelsea-after-a-fifth-club-terminate-loan-deal-early/ He is something else isn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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