kumnio Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shed_Tartan_Army_Yeah said: Berti got us closer to qualifying than the last few managers With a far worse group of players I want a foreign manager, I don't want some Scottish twat who is pally with the players or the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, kumnio said: With a far worse group of players I want a foreign manager, I don't want some Scottish twat who is pally with the players or the media. Likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) What the "anti foreigner" brigade conveniently forget is that Vogts had a squad of players to choose from that would make our current lot look like the Brazil team from the 1970 WC. And he still got us to a play-off! Edited March 22, 2017 by Marky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) On 21/03/2017 at 6:40 AM, vanderark14 said: So we just imagined the we'll support you ever more brigade in Gibraltar? Not at all. The problem comes in extrapolating this further to argue that there is an influential, and ongoing, band of 'happy clappers' that influence the direction of the SFA and performance of the team in a negative way. That is the stuff of imagination. In fact, it's mental. Gibraltar was two years ago and one game. You're ignoring all the other games that contradict your argument. The overwhelming balance of evidence points towards the current group of Scotland supporters being largely quiet, negative and miserable. Far from happy clappers. So for me, the argument falls at the first hurdle. Happy clappers don't exist (at least not to the extent that you think they do), except in the collective and obsessed imagination of this board. WHO ARE THE ILLUMINATI/HAPPY CLAPPERS!!!? And even if they do exist, there is a lot of arguing to do before you can conclude that supporting your team (come what may) produces negative results, particularly when balanced against a majority who are committed to moan or boo or boycott (come what may). However you, and others, treat it like it's self evident. It's obviously not, and even possible that the opposite is true. We should just ditch this fashionable obsession. It's daft and it's mental. Edited March 22, 2017 by Morrisandmoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Morrisandmoo said: Not at all. The problem comes in extrapolating this further to argue that there is an influential, and ongoing, band of 'happy clappers' that influence the direction of the SFA and performance of the team in a negative way. That is the stuff of imagination. In fact, it's mental. Except that Gibraltar game and the reaction after it has been cited by both Strachan and Regan as a chief reason in him staying on as manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radian_13 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 "Not wanting a foreign manager because Vogts was pish"....I forgot about all the Scottish managers who have taken us to tournaments since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Get a foreigner in. Time for a totally fresh start. Get one without a Scottish assistant too and let them make their own mind up about players, if you do/don't pursue eligible players and how experienced a player needs to be in club football to get a call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Not closer than mclesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Parklife said: Except that Gibraltar game and the reaction after it has been cited by both Strachan and Regan as a chief reason in him staying on as manager. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 what game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 35 minutes ago, thplinth said: what game? Slovenia. Fk friendlies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Vogts didn't speak good enough English... A foreign manager that can communicate better with the players will do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 12 hours ago, COLT NY said: Vogts didn't speak good enough English... A foreign manager that can communicate better with the players will do just fine. He spoke fluent Dundonian though, understanding Dailly's "Fvking dehvin cheats!" perfectly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wish we had a couple of Christian Daillys now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, runningtings said: Wish we had a couple of Christian Daillys now... Aye the dog would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyA88 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Dreading Sunday. The whole match day experience at Hampden is crap. The atmosphere on Sunday will be flat and the we can look forward to some fat c#nts taking penalties at half time with the chance to win a Vauxhall Corsa or some pish. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It's over guys.... for years we have had good teams at u18 level and it all goes wrong... predominantly because the standard of our league is terrible. Anyone think A Scottish team will be anywhere near the European cup final in the next 10 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 22/03/2017 at 11:22 AM, Shed_Tartan_Army_Yeah said: Berti got us closer to qualifying than the last few managers On 22/03/2017 at 11:26 AM, kumnio said: With a far worse group of players On 22/03/2017 at 1:25 PM, Marky said: What the "anti foreigner" brigade conveniently forget is that Vogts had a squad of players to choose from that would make our current lot look like the Brazil team from the 1970 WC. And he still got us to a play-off! All three spot on. People are quick to slag Voghts, but must forget he basically had no squad and had to build a team from scratch. And as mentioned, still got to the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmcn Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 21/03/2017 at 9:50 AM, bonny78 said: Its the players not the manager On 21/03/2017 at 1:33 PM, Reevesy said: Do you think Northern Ireland have a better squad than ours? On 21/03/2017 at 1:51 PM, bonny78 said: Yes With all due respect, your mental. Tell us how many from N Ireland's team would walk into our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I think there is not much in it between us and Northern Ireland in terms of squad... riddled with journeymen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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