Orraloon Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HUNTINGMcGREGOR said: Thats bee done mate or over 3 years .... Aye, it's a sair fecht. Just tell him who you are voting for and why. Then it's up to him. Edited May 10, 2017 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Aye iv seen a few local snp supporters posting this on their pages, it just seems to be fingers in ears though. Although it would kill me, maybe the only way for the fishermen to see that the tories are not interested in them is for B&B to go blue..The though about makes me sick Interesting that I heard someone from UKIP saying the same thing the other day on 5Live, north east fishermen more likely to listen to them than SNP? Edited May 10, 2017 by Hertsscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Good on the Green party.... Would be nice if SNP could return the favor in some way. Standing aside in Partick Harvies seat might be a bit much for some. However I would vote for him (just not at risk of SNP perhaps losing to Tories). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Hertsscot said: Interesting that I heard someone from UKIP saying the same thing the other day on 5Live, north east fishermen more likely to listen to them than SNP? Sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Hertsscot said: Interesting that I heard someone from UKIP saying the same thing the other day on 5Live, north east fishermen more likely to listen to them than SNP? Sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Fishing chiefs say the SNP are wrong leading to extreme yoons and Scottish Labour trolls attacking the SNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis_trap Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 ^ I still think Tories will trade fishing off.... The Spanish will want some favors in return for going easy on Gibraltar. Fishing is attractive to foreign nations but would have little impact on the ballot box. Much as the CFP is maligned it does have credible aim of managing stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Corbyn taking us back to the 70s with his manifesto... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways How will that go down with the electorate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Toepoke said: Corbyn taking us back to the 70s with his manifesto... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways How will that go down with the electorate? I would vote for McCorbyn in an independent Scotland. No question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Haggis_trap said: ^ I still think Tories will trade fishing off.... The Spanish will want some favors in return for going easy on Gibraltar. Fishing is attractive to foreign nations but would have little impact on the ballot box. Much as the CFP is maligned it does have credible aim of managing stocks. Thing with fishing is that nearly 70% of our landed fish goes to Europe. Catch all you like guys, if it becomes more expensive than buying from Norway due to tariff, and has to sit rotting in Spanish and French customs instead of whipping through, then the industry is worthless. Don't understand why sector don't see this, other than blind faith there will be no tariff. On top, 40% is caught outside UK waters. So losing access to grounds is nonsense. Just to stop access to other EU nations. As for scraping CFP, there is no way urbanites will accept that. Just look how a celebrity chief forced the UK government to take discard ban/landing obligations to EU, which they adopted. This is also conveniently forgotten by fisherman, that it's discards ban did not come from Brussels but London. Again, industry forget 70% of on board Staffing is British (admittedly 15% is Filipino), nevermind processing staff who are dominated by Eastern European. No right to work will hit. Now we also have the lovely situation whereby fisheries are devolved, I would hope that as a good will gesture the Scottish government demonstrates it is a good European partner by considering allowing access to the EU feet to Scottish waters, if that is refused use the hand of banning English, Welsh, North of Ireland fleets access or transit through Scottish EEZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Toepoke said: Corbyn taking us back to the 70s with his manifesto... What an utterly pathetic comment. All the SNP fanboys on here were coming in their pants at the thought of the Scotrail franchise being nationalised. And pretty much everyone i know was outraged at the big Royal Mail sell of swindle. 8 hours ago, Toepoke said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways How will that go down with the electorate? Really fecking well i'd have thought. Folk are fed up of companies running public services shitely, at great cost to the public and for huge profits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 49 minutes ago, Parklife said: What an utterly pathetic comment. All the SNP fanboys on here were coming in their pants at the thought of the Scotrail franchise being nationalised. And pretty much everyone i know was outraged at the big Royal Mail sell of swindle. Really fecking well i'd have thought. Folk are fed up of companies running public services shitely, at great cost to the public and for huge profits. I am a great believer in certain industries which form the foundations to a country such as energy and transport being nationalised or part nationalised(statoil set up) Its looking like the labour party are going to put forward a half decent manifesto, my fear is that people have their fingers to their ears just as the fishermen have and will vote tory irrespective of manifesto pledges.. its a very strange election, its got a "mob mentality" feel to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Sitting reading the leaked manifesto,, very similar to the SNP theme,, hats off to corbyn looks hald decent,, but is it affordable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 According to BBC Scotland News this morning the Labour manifesto also says they will hold a second indy referendum - I wonder how that will change Kezla Dugdale's stance in the run up to the general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Sitting reading the leaked manifesto,, very similar to the SNP theme,, hats off to corbyn looks hald decent,, but is it affordable? Well Abellio are making £1 million a month running the Scotrail franchise... I'm happy for the government to run that and make £1 million that can be reinvested. Although maybe i'm just a mental, leftie, socialist, 70's loving fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Parklife said: Well Abellio are making £1 million a month running the Scotrail franchise... I'm happy for the government to run that and make £1 million that can be reinvested. Although maybe i'm just a mental, leftie, socialist, 70's loving fool. Well put it this way if I lived in England I'd be voting Labour certainly not Tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 18/04/2017 at 1:08 PM, min said: 10 hours ago, Toepoke said: Corbyn taking us back to the 70s with his manifesto... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways How will that go down with the electorate? Give us peace man. If Labour are taking us back to the 70's then where are the tories taking us with fox hunting and grammar schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Parklife said: Well Abellio are making £1 million a month running the Scotrail franchise... I'm happy for the government to run that and make £1 million that can be reinvested. Although maybe i'm just a mental, leftie, socialist, 70's loving fool. Socialism and capitalism has its advantages and disadvantages,, for both to work well a good opposition is essential, a free run for capitalism leads to things like the banking crisis and socialism left unchecked leads to communism,, any true labour supporters should bevvery pleased with this manifesto.With the success of the snp it would be stupid for labour south of the border not to take notes from them Edited May 11, 2017 by hampden_loon2878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres the pies Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Well put it this way if I lived in England I'd be voting Labour certainly not Tory. Although a Tory heartland doon here will still and always vote labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, wheres the pies said: Although a Tory heartland doon here will still and always vote labour I've lived down in England before and never voted Tory. It was either Labour or Lib Dem for me or no vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 hours ago, Toepoke said: Corbyn taking us back to the 70s with his manifesto... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/labour-party-manifesto-pledges-to-end-tuition-fees-and-nationalise-railways How will that go down with the electorate? I wouldn't mind going back to the 70s. It was a great time to be alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Parklife said: What an utterly pathetic comment. All the SNP fanboys on here were coming in their pants at the thought of the Scotrail franchise being nationalised. And pretty much everyone i know was outraged at the big Royal Mail sell of swindle. Really fecking well i'd have thought. Folk are fed up of companies running public services shitely, at great cost to the public and for huge profits. I agree with a lot of his policies. If I was living down south I would probably vote Labour. I think a lot of folk will like his policies if they get to hear about them properly. His problem isn't his policies, it's the overwhelming right wing media (including the BBC). His only chance is through social media and if he has got enough momentum on the streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I agree with a lot of his policies. If I was living down south I would probably vote Labour. I think a lot of folk will like his policies if they get to hear about them properly. His problem isn't his policies, it's the overwhelming right wing media (including the BBC). His only chance is through social media and if he has got enough momentum on the streets. I couldn't vote Labour where I live while they are so violently opposed to Independence, in fact it's the opposition to having a second referendum that is worse for me as its fundamentally anti-democratic regardless of your views on the constitution. I couldn't vote Labour in this particular election as I've had personal dealings with him over a number of years and he is a grade A Gareth Hunt, in fact I'd go so far as to say that for me at least he's even more unacceptable than the incumbent - who is of course Theresa May. if the Greens are standing a candidate I'll vote for them as I've done at the last few elections. If not then at least I'll have a good selection of "off-the-wall" alternative candidates to select from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I wouldn't mind going back to the 70s. It was a great time to be alive. Yes, that's sort of how it seems to me, though I suspect some of that is with the benefit of a rosy rear-view mirror. It was great to be the age we (I suspect) were - utterly irresponsible, full grant for Uni, great bands, cheap gigs & beer. Then again, it probably wasn't that good if you were gay, black, Lancastrian or Ted Heath. Also, there was the three-day week, 'Winter of Discontent', 'the Troubles' and the Bay City Rollers. A bit of a mixed bag, all in all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 70s had its moments - sadly everyone looked like Donny - even the men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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