euan2020 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, thplinth said: And by the way someone above suggested the council tax changes might have played a part in this... could not agree more. I had a very small experience with some of this and it was revolting. I can fully understand if it caused some folk to say go fhuck yourselves. You would not think you would but trust me the treatment I saw was unbelievable. I am told it was the local councils applying it but it was the SNP that enabled them (but trust me the councils actively blamed the SNP). The SNP cant trust hostile councils with discretionary power. They just use it to fhuck you. And guess what they fhucked you. just found out my mother voted Tory (Gordon) and last time around she voted SNP & Likely Lib Dem before that Council Tax was her motivation - told her 100 GBP was fook all when get all free busses, prescriptions, etc etc , I think some of the businesses in North had their rates trebled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Parklife said: There's two options: 1. Yes he is. 2. No but he just wants to play the @rsehole, like usual. what makes you think he is playing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, euan2020 said: what makes you think he is playing ? Fair one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, euan2020 said: what makes you think he is playing ? He is either playing or truly has the intellect of a 7 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, euan2020 said: just found out my mother voted Tory (Gordon) and last time around she voted SNP & Likely Lib Dem before that Council Tax was her motivation - told her 100 GBP was fook all when get all free busses, prescriptions, etc etc , I think some of the businesses in North had their rates trebled The business community in the north east is seething about the rate hike. Was at a business breakfast up there the other week. Covered half the discussion forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwng Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Parklife said: They're not going in to coalition. Since ive bet on next government to be a Tory minority, they fecking better not!! Bookies put £130 into my account today. Cheers for the tip by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I don't know where this leaves Labour supporters in Scotland. Yes, the party inspired by Corbyn had a good night but in the cold light of morning May might have had a bloodied nose but the Tories still won and once more Scotland is at the mercy of a party that it did not vote for and that democratic deficit is for me the crux of the independence cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Labour win Kensington - Utter madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mox said: Labour win Kensington - Utter madness. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartandon Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) the people of Moray are bawbags Edited June 9, 2017 by tartandon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 35 minutes ago, Mox said: Labour win Kensington - Utter madness. Crazy. Couldn't believe that one but I guess we should no longer be surprised by some outcomes in elections of the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Watching various news programmes tonight I see that "strong and stable" has now been replaced by "certainty" as the new Tory catchphrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Angus Robertson - a thorn in the side of the Tory front benchers asking the right questions about their policies and making weekly headlines in the National media Alex Salmond - a thorn in the side of the Tory foreign policy and illegal war machine John Nicolson - a thorn in the side of the colonial attitude to broadcasting in Scotland And we got rid of them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Angus Robertson - a thorn in the side of the Tory front benchers asking the right questions about their policies and making weekly headlines in the National media Alex Salmond - a thorn in the side of the Tory foreign policy and illegal war machine John Nicolson - a thorn in the side of the colonial attitude to broadcasting in Scotland And we got rid of them all For some Tory nobodies who will be forgotten in good time. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Angus Robertson - a thorn in the side of the Tory front benchers asking the right questions about their policies and making weekly headlines in the National media Alex Salmond - a thorn in the side of the Tory foreign policy and illegal war machine John Nicolson - a thorn in the side of the colonial attitude to broadcasting in Scotland And we got rid of them all Well it just means that 20-25 rosette wearers need to get involved instead of leaving it to these few. Do that and parliamentary snp group will be a force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Bristolhibby said: For some Tory nobodies who will be forgotten in good time. J And all because of some twisted self loathing desire to ensure that if Brexit turns out to be an unmitigated disaster for Scotland we do not get a chance to reject it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) i see Sarah Smith wrapping up there, spinning the line that the Scottish government had surely now lost the right to indyref2 because of this result. But surely they already established the right to do call for it; whether they actually go ahead with it is political judgement, which this result presumably advises against. If Sarah Smith ignores that right already established, she's more or less saying Holyrood is a pretendy parliament (despite making a living out of Scottish politics). And Ruth Davidson, congratulated for her successful strategy of proclaiming to block a referendum - but surely she never did say that she would block it? The Tories only ever said 'not now'. So the narrative as usual stitched up to suit the soundbite; you have to conclude that the arguments above are way too nuanced and complex for busy voters to worry about. In this sense the arguments of Trump-like simplicity - Take Back Control - must have never seemed more attractive. Edited June 9, 2017 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stu101 said: The business community in the north east is seething about the rate hike. Was at a business breakfast up there the other week. Covered half the discussion forum. Yes that they are, for a party who said they would listen we certainly didn't when it came ton the business rate rises Edited June 9, 2017 by hampden_loon2878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Regardless of mistakes and misjudgements in the past - The SNP will not now roll back on the people of Scotland being given a choice between an extreme brexit UK and Independence within the EU The reason ? Because it's not about the SNP - it's about what's best for Scotland I have highlighted extreme brexit UK because there is a good chance that will not happen now and we might remain in the common market Thats the only way it will be off the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) On reflection the actual number of WM seats does not matter too much, in a practical sense, unless actually part of the arithmetic of a governing alliance. For all that the SNP like to have 'won the election' in reality no rival party is acknowledging that as of any significance...; had they won 50 seats the answer would still be 'no'. Edited June 9, 2017 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest flumax Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Such is fptp. Obsv did not vote needs improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Stu101 said: I know someone that is related to one of their MP's. Says they are completely mental. Doesn't know if they hate Catholics or dinosaurs more. ??? 4 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Are you really so dense that you believe the Corbyn IRA sympathiser garbage? See below 3 hours ago, Parklife said: There's two options: 1. Yes he is. 2. No but he just wants to play the @rsehole, like usual. A mixture of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 What we'd give to get David Cameron back on the job Say what you want about him but he wasn't afraid to put himself in the firing line, gave us the chance of independence and later Brexit which eventually led to his downfall I wonder what the bookies would give you on Tony Blair being PM this time next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Angus Robertson - a thorn in the side of the Tory front benchers asking the right questions about their policies and making weekly headlines in the National media Alex Salmond - a thorn in the side of the Tory foreign policy and illegal war machine John Nicolson - a thorn in the side of the colonial attitude to broadcasting in Scotland And we got rid of them all One might think that youngsters were being turned away and votes were tampered with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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