daviebee Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I've had mice before - twice. I sort of expect that considering where we live. You hear scratching in the attic, put poison down, noises stop, job done. You never even see the wee furry bastirts - they just crawl away somewhere and die. However, my mrs woke me the other night cos there was this almighty racket in the attic. I keep a tub of poison up there so went up to put some out only to find it lying on its side with a big feck off hole in the lid and the contents scattered over the insulation. I suppose the good news is that it's obviously gorged itself silly on the poison but the bad news is that things are way different from when we had mice - no droppings lying about randomly like you'd expect. Also, the mice waited for you to poison them whereas this thing has gone searching for the stuff itself. This makes me think I've got something much worse than mice. Anyone experienced this? There's no evidence at all of anything in the house living area. When we had mice before it was in the winter so I'm amazed something's came in during the warmer weather. Is it likely to be a rogue or some female looking to have a wee litter of ratlets? I'm not really sure what to do - give it a few days since it's obviously eaten poison or get pest control in? (Getting a cat is not an option. My mrs is allergic and I fkin hate the things.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Only had mice in the house - Field mice to be exact There are Rats about due to them reopening the railway line out my way but there hasnt been any reports of house infestation We have plenty foxes too which will be a balancer Only advice is - If you have mice you wont have rats And it might still be a mouse you have Edited May 17, 2017 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, daviebee said: I've had mice before - twice. I sort of expect that considering where we live. You hear scratching in the attic, put poison down, noises stop, job done. You never even see the wee furry bastirts - they just crawl away somewhere and die. However, my mrs woke me the other night cos there was this almighty racket in the attic. I keep a tub of poison up there so went up to put some out only to find it lying on its side with a big feck off hole in the lid and the contents scattered over the insulation. I suppose the good news is that it's obviously gorged itself silly on the poison but the bad news is that things are way different from when we had mice - no droppings lying about randomly like you'd expect. Also, the mice waited for you to poison them whereas this thing has gone searching for the stuff itself. This makes me think I've got something much worse than mice. Anyone experienced this? There's no evidence at all of anything in the house living area. When we had mice before it was in the winter so I'm amazed something's came in during the warmer weather. Is it likely to be a rogue or some female looking to have a wee litter of ratlets? I'm not really sure what to do - give it a few days since it's obviously eaten poison or get pest control in? (Getting a cat is not an option. My mrs is allergic and I fkin hate the things.) You kill mice so no telling you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Might be a grey squirrel. One of them in your loft and everything gets eaten. Leather handles, wooden boxes chewed, plastic bits of the fairy lights, even the mains lighting wiring had a bite out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 As an aside - Voles (field mice) are magic We had a family of them under the garden hut - and they take no shit if cornered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I had mice in the house a few years ago and managed to eliminate them with poison. After several years I again found a mouse wandering round the house and put down new traps. Not found a dead mouse yet but it appears to have gone. If they die in the house the smell is quite strong so you can usually find them. I once had to extract one from under the fitted kitchen units. Better to do it as quickly as possible as they sort of rot into the floorboards if left too long. Used to trap them and release them lalive but you need to take them about a mile away and preferably over water or they just reappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I use the Vermatik Ultrasonic repellers and they seen to be effective in the loft, though if they do also annoy the weans. We've one in the loft, one in the garage and 2 in the rest of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Only advice is - If you have mice you wont have rats Well, he killed all the mice, so maybe this is karma? Are you confident this is correct or is it an auld wife tale? Most folk will have had rats in or around their house at some point and didn't even know about it. There is a good chance they are there right now, sleeping away, just waiting to come out after darkness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Larky Masher said: I use the Vermatik Ultrasonic repellers and they seen to be effective in the loft, though if they do also annoy the weans. We've one in the loft, one in the garage and 2 in the rest of the house. Weans?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Weans?! That'll teach the one in the loft for deciding to support the Celtic. Edited May 17, 2017 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Are you confident this is correct or is it an auld wife tale? Did you ask that in a Chris Tarrant voice ? Mice and Rats dont interact - unless they have had a few lagers Rats usually engage in "Muricide" and Mice get stressed by the presence of rat odour Laboratory tests confirm Old Wives were right on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: As an aside - Voles (field mice) are magic We had a family of them under the garden hut - and they take no shit if cornered Voles and Field mice are different species. Voles have short tails, mice longer tails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Did you ask that in a Chris Tarrant voice ? Mice and Rats dont interact - unless they have had a few lagers Rats usually engage in "Muricide" and Mice get stressed by the presence of rat odour Laboratory tests confirm Old Wives were right on this one I'm away to phone a friend. He's a rat catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, jailender said: Voles and Field mice are different species. Voles have short tails, mice longer tails Confident ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Lucky fecker. I have raccoons that visit mine. Once they breed it's a cvnt to get them out as they go ultra protective obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Confident ? Do you live in Yankland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Fairbairn said: Weans?! They can hear some of the lower frequencies the repellers emit and this distracts them from their i-phones, though I guess they're now young adults as opposed to weans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Do you live in Yankland? I believe there is no such species as a field mouse Field mouse is a generic term for a variety of mice Final answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 All species of mice come under the genus Mus. Most voles we'd come into contact with are part of the genus Microtus; none is in Mus. There's no point trying to classify living things in the vernacular, it's just messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I believe there is no such species as a field mouse Field mouse is a generic term for a variety of mice Final answer I believe the yanks call voles "field mice" whereas we just call them "voles". I think a "field mouse" in the UK is just a mouse which happens to be in a field. It could be a wood, harvest or house mouse. As you say "field mouse" isn't a recognised species. Species classification could change a lot in the next few years with advances in genetic profiling. Which could confuse us even more. The fact that Yanks speak a different language doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: All species of mice come under the genus Mus. Most voles we'd come into contact with are part of the genus Microtus; none is in Mus. There's no point trying to classify living things in the vernacular, it's just messy. Arvicola amphibious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Arvicola amphibious? But no one's going to confuse a water vole with a mouse - with a rat maybe, if you're Kenneth Grahame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Well my mrs is American and I have to say she doesn't really give a fk what the thing in the loft is called! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, DonnyTJS said: But no one's going to confuse a water vole with a mouse - with a rat maybe, if you're Kenneth Grahame. No idea who he is. We used to call them water rats. I still use the terms peezies, bonksies and hedge sparrow amongst others. I'm not changing just because some geezer decided to give them Latin names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Thought this was going to be a 'my wife is a secret tory' thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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