Scotty CTA Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Looks like Partick Thistle, Killie, and Ross County through as three of the 4 second best. (Both Dundee teams through barring at least respective 8-0 and 6-0 skelpings.) Edited July 29, 2017 by Scotty CTA Mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: Looks like Partick Thistle, Killie, and Ross County through as three of the 4 second best. And the loser of the dundee Derby unless it's 6-0 either way and Peterhead get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 How does the draw for the last 16 work, are the teams who've been in each other's group kept apart or is it a free for all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The four UEFA-qualifying clubs and the four group winners with the best record are seeded for the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Looks like Falkirk, Ayr United, Motherwell (all on 12 points) and the winner of the Dundee derby will be seeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Quote Dundee Utd gain revenge for the Doon Derby... Aye, ok, @Rorinho... Edited July 30, 2017 by Cove_Sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Dundee derby comes out the hat minutes after their first round game ends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wee team derby hibs v ayr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Normal service resumed at dens today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Normal service resumed at dens today. We cant relegate you every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, kumnio said: We cant relegate you every week Here is a question for you, how come we won and were the seeded team but you get the home draw. I don't get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 St Johnstone v Partick Thistle Hibernian v Ayr United Rangers v Dunfermline Athletic Ross County v Motherwell Falkirk v Livingston Hamilton Academical v Aberdeen Celtic v Kilmarnock Dundee v Dundee United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Here is a question for you, how come we won and were the seeded team but you get the home draw. I don't get it? It went Seeded vs Unseeded then Unseeded vs Seeded until all the teams had been drawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, Stewart_Aberdeen said: It went Seeded vs Unseeded then Unseeded vs Seeded until all the teams had been drawn. WTF is the logic (and I use that term loosely in this context) behind that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Makes it more fair. Why should teams be seeded, and be guaranteed to play at home. Edited July 30, 2017 by kumnio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just now, kumnio said: Makes it more fair. Why should teams be seeded, and get to play at home. So what was the point of today then? Stupid competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wanted Ayr United away before the seedings were finalised so you could say Killie at home is the complete opposite of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 You could have ended up with a home draw v Ayr or any of the other unseeded teams. Today just gave you the right to be seeded as one of the top 8 teams* left in the competition. Its just the luck of the draw. * oxymoronic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: WTF is the logic (and I use that term loosely in this context) behind that??? It's to give the illusion of being fair and random but really it's just maximising the gates (and helping Rangers) behind the scenes. Ensuring Celtic, Rangers, and Hibs at home will draw bigger gates in the bigger stadiums. Same with the Dundee derby. Aberdeen (known for a strong travelling support) will be away to a smaller club, with the Falkirk/Livingstone tie setting up Rangers next opponent. 9 minutes ago, ShedTA said: So what was the point of today then? Stupid competition. There wasn't any thinking after 'another Dundee derby'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 35 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: WTF is the logic (and I use that term loosely in this context) behind that??? It gives all the teams an even chance of being at home regardless of seeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, ShedTA said: So what was the point of today then? Stupid competition. All the group games need played whether two teams are already through come the last game or not. Today's game decided who would be seeded. You could have the scenario where in the last game both teams are already qualified and both guaranteed to be non seeds. Then it would be a real dead rubber game but that's the way it is. Happens all the time in group stage competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: It gives all the teams an even chance of being at home regardless of seeding. It could. It didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: It gives all the teams an even chance of being at home regardless of seeding. So why seed them? Seeding introduces bias to the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doric Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Sevco at hame again !!!! Not one to exagerate but that must be aboot 897 home ties in a row. Edited July 30, 2017 by Doric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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