Mox Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The league cup is utter pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 There's definitely flaws in the seeding system. Motherwell are rewarded for topping the group with an away tie at Ross county. Hibs scrape through and get Ayr at home. Dundee united reward for topping the group is an away draw to the runners up. Rangers get a home draw [end of statement] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: There's definitely flaws in the seeding system. Motherwell are rewarded for topping the group with an away tie at Ross county. Hibs scrape through and get Ayr at home. Dundee united reward for topping the group is an away draw to the runners up. Rangers get a home draw [end of statement] Good the see the ball heater is still working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 59 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: So why seed them? Seeding introduces bias to the draw. I'd say we're all well acquainted by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Doric said: Sevco at hame again !!!! Not one to exagerate but that must be aboot 897 home ties in a row. 898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Scotty CTA said: It could. It didn't. It could. It did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said: So why seed them? Seeding introduces bias to the draw. True. The quarter finals aren't seeded. It does mean performing well in the group stages gives you an advantage of being a seed, also to those teams who did well last year and qualified for Europe. Teams with the best group stage record geta seeded place which gives them an incentive to try and win all games and not lie down in last game when the group is already won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: There's definitely flaws in the seeding system. Motherwell are rewarded for topping the group with an away tie at Ross county. Hibs scrape through and get Ayr at home. Dundee united reward for topping the group is an away draw to the runners up. Rangers get a home draw [end of statement] Ross County didn't do well enough to earn a seeded place. As there are only 4 seeded places from the group's then premiership teams will often be unseeded. Ayr though won all their games so deserved a seeded place. Just happens they drew Hibs who didn't do well enough to earn a seeded place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: It did. And yet the draw looks as if it were hand-picked by the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: And yet the draw looks as if it were hand-picked by the authorities. Suppose...if you're someone who likes to believe in conspiracy theories. I like to believe that Rangers randomly never get an away cup tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Ross County didn't do well enough to earn a seeded place. As there are only 4 seeded places from the group's then premiership teams will often be unseeded. Ayr though won all their games so deserved a seeded place. Just happens they drew Hibs who didn't do well enough to earn a seeded place. I get how it works. Its just a shame Ayr for example weren't rewarded with a friendlier draw, there's an Irony in the draw for Hibs and Dundee united. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 hours ago, kumnio said: Makes it more fair. Why should teams be seeded, and be guaranteed to play at home. So, when two balls were left if United had lost the game they'd have been given the home draw.  That's funny.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 28/07/2017 at 7:58 PM, macy37 said: Maybe a bit harsh. A soulless "stadium" with one wee stand and nothing else. Dreadful pitch too. In an absolute tip of an area of town. Doesn't your team play in Parkhead, one of the most deprived areas in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, adamntg said: Doesn't your team play in Parkhead, one of the most deprived areas in the UK? It does and it's a magnificent arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, macy37 said: It does and it's a magnificent arena. Thank you Glasgow City Council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: Suppose...if you're someone who likes to believe in conspiracy theories. I like to believe that Rangers randomly never get an away cup tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevesy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 The huns still haven't won a cup in their current guise so can't say I'm too fussed about it . Watching 25k of them leaving Hampden absolutely spewing is preferable and more enjoyable than a smaller away support  anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, iainmac1 said: Suppose...if you're someone who likes to believe in conspiracy theories. I like to believe that Rangers randomly never get an away cup tie. Nothing random about it. They're the establishment team and by all intents and purposes, broke. Them being in financial straights guarantees a fixed draw. 59 minutes ago, adamntg said: So, when two balls were left if United had lost the game they'd have been given the home draw.  That's funny.  They'll claim that it's 2 different things. - that firstly, the seedings only guarantee that the top 8 won't be drawn against each other and that the bottom 8 won't be drawn against each other. - and that secondly, every team has a 50/50 chance of being drawn home/away It's also difficult for a team when they drop to the 15th seed only because of an unsuccessfully converted penalty though. If the 1st seed played the 16th seed, the 2nd seed played the 15th seed, and so on, then the teams around 8th and 9th would face a similar scenario IMHO (in the sense that not much would be separating them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Mox said: The league cup is utter pish. Hope your players feel the same way. 28 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: Nothing random about it. They're the establishment team and by all intents and purposes, broke. Them being in financial straights guarantees a fixed draw. It's Killie's first away draw since 2008. We are the mini Huns right enough...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 46 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Hope your players feel the same way. It's Killie's first away draw since 2008. We are the mini Huns right enough...  Ssshhhhh! You'll ruin Scotty's conspiracy theory you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, macy37 said: It does and it's a magnificent arena. Good stadium in an absolute hovel of an area. Need to walk to St Lukes to find a decent boozer and even then it's bang slap in the middle of IRA town. Sorry I mean the Gallowgate. Edited July 31, 2017 by Squirrelhumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 8 hours ago, Toepoke said: Hope your players feel the same way. It's Killie's first away draw since 2008. We are the mini Huns right enough... Â I know. Every year I wasn't a decent away trip in the Scottish and we end up with some sh1te like Hamilton at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 22 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Ssshhhhh! You'll ruin Scotty's conspiracy theory you. I don't have a conspiracy theory about Kilmarnock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: I don't have a conspiracy theory about Kilmarnock. Maybe if you were old enough to remember the 1962 League Cup final...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: Maybe if you were old enough to remember the 1962 League Cup final... Â It was a blatant hand ball. Stop whingin'. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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