Ormond Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 What a sell out piece of shite. Everything he claimed to stand for is now a pile of bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, Ormond said: What a sell out piece of shite. Everything he claimed to stand for is now a pile of bollocks. Now? What's the difference to when he accepted a CBE 15 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, Toepoke said: Now? What's the difference to when he accepted a CBE 15 years ago? Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 53 minutes ago, Ormond said: What a sell out piece of shite. Everything he claimed to stand for is now a pile of bollocks. What things that he claimed to stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, aaid said: What things that he claimed to stand for? Scotland to be servile to England (yes he really does) and the Labour party are two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 He's in fine company. Something quite sad about seeing someone so proud to receive a knighthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I'd imagine he is at the stage of thinking about his own mortality and dying Even although i think it's a lot of cack i dont begrudge him it if it makes him happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 This congratulatory tweet from the First Minister certainly raised the bait... https://mobile.twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/875963836540604416 As Ally said he's an ill old man, if this gives him happiness then fine. Tbh the honours system doesn't bother me much at all, it's not likely to be a dilemma I'll ever have to face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: This congratulatory tweet from the First Minister certainly raised the bait... https://mobile.twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/875963836540604416 As Ally said he's an ill old man, if this gives him happiness then fine. Tbh the honours system doesn't bother me much at all, it's not likely to be a dilemma I'll ever have to face... Where's the dilemma? Just tell them to stuff it up their erchie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 hours ago, Toepoke said: Tbh the honours system doesn't bother me much at all, it's not likely to be a dilemma I'll ever have to face... indeed, why people get so upset about other people they don't know excepting them is bizarre we'd all take them if offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, dan cake said: we'd all take them if offered I've just telt them to stuff it. Plenty other folk do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, dan cake said: indeed, why people get so upset about other people they don't know excepting them is bizarre we'd all take them if offered Not upset but it's a evidenfe of a unequal society, hence why some are against it. Edited June 18, 2017 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, dan cake said: indeed, why people get so upset about other people they don't know excepting them is bizarre we'd all take them if offered Man who crawls up the arse of English fitba' in defence of British boak worthy whank fest shockaroonie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Not upset but it's a evidenfe of a unequal society, hence why some are against it. I'm sure there are many more reasons than that why people oppose them. Even the "equal" Soviet Union gave out gongs to civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Soup Taker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 23 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Scotland to be servile to England (yes he really does) and the Labour party are two When did he say the servile bit? I know he has been outspoken in his criticism of both nationalism and patriotism, and he made a comment a while back about England having saved a bankrupt Scotland (referencing Darien presumably). But he's also said he's no fan of a union with England. As for supporting Labour so did I for most of my adult life, and so did 99% of folk of his background until very recently. I'd prefer everyone told them to ram their honour up their royal ring (rather than smooch it) but he's an actor and comedian not an historian and, to my mind, if he wants to take the honour that's his business. He's done a lot more to deserve it than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Pool Q said: When did he say the servile bit? Was what he stands for rather than saying it in so many words You have touched on it with his point of the Darien expedition - a common ludicrous reference made by Brit Nats https://wingsoverscotland.com/weekend-essay-skintland-britnat-mythology-and-the-darien-scheme/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Was what he stands for rather than saying it in so many words You have touched on it with his point of the Darien expedition - a common ludicrous reference made by Brit Nats https://wingsoverscotland.com/weekend-essay-skintland-britnat-mythology-and-the-darien-scheme/ I know the history, unlike Connolly it appears. I didn't think he had said that, or anything like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 7 hours ago, dan cake said: we'd all take them if offered I can absolutely and categorically tell you that in the highly unlikely event of being offered one I would most definitely NOT accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, DaveyDenoon said: I can absolutely and categorically tell you that in the highly unlikely event of being offered one I would most definitely NOT accept it. Aye, you say that noo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I have been offered one and refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Was what he stands for rather than saying it in so many words So you were havering then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 17/06/2017 at 2:41 PM, Ormond said: What a sell out piece of shite. Everything he claimed to stand for is now a pile of bollocks. On 17/06/2017 at 3:35 PM, aaid said: What things that he claimed to stand for? On 17/06/2017 at 3:48 PM, Ally Bongo said: Scotland to be servile to England (yes he really does) and the Labour party are two 17 minutes ago, aaid said: So you were havering then. No Servile: having or showing an excessive willingness to serve or please others. In 1974 he made a party political television broadcast on behalf of the Labour party which criticised and blasted the Scottish National Party Although he has chosen not to live in Scotland for most of his adult life, he questioned the expense of independence "You must remember that the Union saved Scotland. Scotland was bankrupt and the English opened us up to their American and Canadian markets, from which we just flowered." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Pool Q said: When did he say the servile bit? I know he has been outspoken in his criticism of both nationalism and patriotism, and he made a comment a while back about England having saved a bankrupt Scotland (referencing Darien presumably). But he's also said he's no fan of a union with England. As for supporting Labour so did I for most of my adult life, and so did 99% of folk of his background until very recently. I'd prefer everyone told them to ram their honour up their royal ring (rather than smooch it) but he's an actor and comedian not an historian and, to my mind, if he wants to take the honour that's his business. He's done a lot more to deserve it than most. Really... Do explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I suppose any lefty once-poor working class kid who grows up to be rich and famous is in danger of becoming a walking contradiction. If you become rich and famous I don't think it's hypocritical either to continue to be a socialist, say, or to become a bit of a conservative in old age (as long as you don't try to trade on your socialist past). But some things are clearly entirely optional sending signals about yourself, and for someone I thought was sympathetic to both socialism and Irish nationalism, to choose to be honoured by and literally kneeling to the British monarchy is baffling to me. If you bring your politics into your act, or public profile (unlike, say, Ronny Corbett? Rikki Fulton?) you're likely to expect public scrutiny. So I think he's fair game in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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