DaveyDenoon Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 There's no pleasing some folk. After the position we were in in November we now have it in our own hands with two games to go. Can't really ask for much more. The team and, yes, the manager have done well this year to get us back into contention. Good results, generally decent performances and quite honestly I don't care how rank rotten we look against the likes of Malta or anybody else as long as we take the three points. England have been at for donkeys but churn out the results in qualifying. Win our next two games and were in the playoffs. I'll take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Job done. Brutal to watch - the sort of "entertainment" that makes you think football will die on its arse soon. Just sell all the man uniteds, celtics and barcelonas as franchises to the Chinese and concentrate on the PlayStation or politics or something. Anyway, I digress. The Lithuania result tonight and the table itself probably show you where we are in relation to Slovenia and Slovakia - we're all much of a muchness. If we do the job, it won't be a huge surprise. Similar story if we don't. It will probably come down to who wants it more and whether Strachan picks Forrest. I think I'm getting sick of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Slovenia have only conceded 4 goals so far. Haven't conceded any at home. People are underestimating them. Slovakia are a tough side but Slovenia away from home will be every bit as tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 59 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: Apparently this is the first time in ten years we've won both games of a double header. Lithuania / France? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 1-0 at Hampden flattered Slovenia immensely. I think we had in excess of 20 shots on goal in that match and hit the woodwork twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Lithuania / France? France away, Ukraine home i think. Edit: Scratch that. Just looked it up and yer right Toepoke. Edited September 4, 2017 by Dave78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 We weren't great tonight, but got the job done. Thought a few were off the boil - Robertson's final ball was poor, but his positing and runs were excellent ; Forrest was poor ; Tierney did alright ; Griffiths did well in doses but a bit greedy on at least two occasions but he is a striker and glad he got a goal even if there was a bit fortune about it. Malta very rarely get humped, and they are a tough side to break down. Like a few have said, it wasn't a brilliant performance but we looked very much in control from the get go and even at 1-0 I felt confident we would still win the match. We've done well to get back in to it and its between the three of us for the second spot. Slovakia have the easiest run in out the three of us and if you said to me, Scotland would be in with a shout in the final double-header of making the playoffs (after November last year) well, that'd just be mental. I think we'll fall just short. We played the two poorest sides in the group this week and fair dues, 5-0 is a decent return over the weekend, we don't have any booking worries for Slovakia and we played excellent in one game, and decent-ish in another. We have the momentum of 3 wins and a draw out of our last four, and we will have a sold out Hampden for a huge game which if we can win would possibly barring a Slovene win at Wembley, put us in 2nd place going in to the last round of fixtures! It's not impossible to imagine it, and I am fairly looking forward to it ; but it's going to be a very tough ask, and here's hoping we can do it. Of course those dropped points - especially against Lithuania at Hampden - would have helped a lot , but we might not have beaten Slovenia, if we had beaten Lithuania at home. Looking forward to Slovakia. It'll be a tough game, and this approach of one game at a time is what we need to do. Let's see if we can beat Slovakia, and if we can - then it'll be time to dream. A month to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, ironbrew said: Unfortunately it seems like 2v0 was considered ok. A 5v0 would have given us some hope to get through with draw in Slovenia but looks unlikely now There's a good chance being tied on 18 points with Slovakia won't be enough to secure a play-off, it would be a dug's chance I suppose but I think we really need 2 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyA88 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 On another note it's time for James Forrest 'gump' to be dropped. He just isn't good enough. Offers nothing going forward or defensively. Surely Fraser is a better option. Or Burke if he starts getting games. I also think Tierney at right back hampers us. I really like him as a player but we need someone who can at least go down the right at right back I think. Would maybe see how Tierney goes as a left sided CB after this campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, GordyA88 said: I also think Tierney at right back hampers us. I really like him as a player but we need someone who can at least go down the right at right back I think. Would maybe see how Tierney goes as a left sided CB after this campaign. Needs to spend more time in training on his weaker foot, that's how Danny McGrain used to do it anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Decent game. We controlled it. Armstrong is a great player. Griffiths gets another goal. No suspensions. Another clean sheet. Atmosphere was decent for crowd size. We. Can Do. This. Lets do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Quite a boring stroll in the park imo. Forrest is absolutely a waste of a jersey, just an abomination of a player for us. He can't play in either of the next two games, we can't afford to have a passenger in these games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, GordyA88 said: On another note it's time for James Forrest 'gump' to be dropped. He just isn't good enough. Offers nothing going forward or defensively. Surely Fraser is a better option. Or Burke if he starts getting games. I also think Tierney at right back hampers us. I really like him as a player but we need someone who can at least go down the right at right back I think. Would maybe see how Tierney goes as a left sided CB after this campaign. Agree with this. It was very obvious tonight that he was not in his favoured position. Offered very little in an atracking sense in comparison to when he plays on the left. Edited September 4, 2017 by Marky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Slovenia win. England draw. Lithuania win. Malta win. There's no half a bunch of zoomers on here needing to stick their dummy back in and wake up to the fact that we're winning games and have every chance of winning more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Tonight was about getting the job done. Never in a million years did I think it would a great game and it wasn't, but we were still by far the most comfortable side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 An adequate performance. No more, no less. Matt Phillips is probably the most annoying player I've ever watched. He must've given the hall away about 60% of the times he had it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Morrisandmoo said: Slovenia win. England draw. Lithuania win. Malta win. There's no half a bunch of zoomers on here needing to stick their dummy back in and wake up to the fact that we're winning games and have every chance of winning more. Although the last two were the weaker teams, it's all good for momentum. Slovakia have lost some, we have gained some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Good performances and results. Shocking turn out for a must win qualifier at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mee said: Good performances and results. Shocking turn out for a must win qualifier at home. Not really. That's what the SFA's pricing strategy will get you. I actually thought the turnout was decent considering the £36 to see Malta on a Monday night ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 It was poor all round but the result was the most important. Once again though, the pitch looked absolutely murder, and this killed our approach and energy. Do wonder if we'd be more suitable to plastic pitches like Lithuania. Special mention to Scott Brown - 9 times he needlessly gave the ball away. That will be picked up on and punished by the Slovaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mee said: Good performances and results. Shocking turn out for a must win qualifier at home. Monday night is difficult for many to get to, and makes it difficult to compare with previous attendances. Aren't turnouts always likely to be low against the smaller teams like Malta - and those are almost always 'must win' games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Debian said: It was poor all round but the result was the most important. Once again though, the pitch looked absolutely murder, and this killed our approach and energy. Do wonder if we'd be more suitable to plastic pitches like Lithuania. Special mention to Scott Brown - 9 times he needlessly gave the ball away. That will be picked up on and punished by the Slovaks Armstrong was the stand out by a mile. Other than that I don't think anyone played particularly well last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, slasher said: Not really. That's what the SFA's pricing strategy will get you. I actually thought the turnout was decent considering the £36 to see Malta on a Monday night ? My ticket was £17 and the kids were a fiver. Two adults and two kids, I paid £44, can't argue with that. How cheap do you want it to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boboblanko Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, slasher said: Armstrong was the stand out by a mile. Other than that I don't think anyone played particularly well last night. Armstrong was outstanding again. It looked like some of the players were holding back last night. Broony definitely was (although he was still lucky not to be booked). If there were no threats of suspensions hanging over certain players, I guess we would have seen a different team last night. We will need to get stuck into Slovakia, which is where some players will have to tread carefully again or they will miss Slovenia. We need full team for both games..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, adamntg said: My ticket was £17 and the kids were a fiver. Two adults and two kids, I paid £44, can't argue with that. How cheap do you want it to be? Bully for you. I paid double that (season ticket) and that's too much. Frankly the cut price tickets are a piss take imo but good luck to you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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