Revisiting 9/11?

[Scotty CTA]

3 hours ago, Flat Earth said:

How many have you hooked Scotty? This is hilarious! 

I'm not fishing.

Once again, I'm completely serious.

2 hours ago, Toepoke said:

Of course they're straight, they're the fastest routes from A to B over the globe.

And the flat earth (so what's your point?)

2 hours ago, Toepoke said:

There's one airborne the now! Seems to be following the route in the map above too...

Contact me again when you are actually on one of these imaginary flights.

2 hours ago, biffer said:

How big is the thing you want to see at 3000 miles?

On a flat earth, could a normal (non NWO) citizen see North America from Ireland?

Is that type of telescope available to the average Joe?

1 hour ago, DonnyTJS said:

I asked about contradictions in Biblical geometry last time this came up but don't think I got an answer ...

If the world is a circle (as per various Old Testament verses), how come it's got four corners in Revelations 7:1?

Apologies if I missed that.

Could be referring to the four compass points, or it could be something along these lines...

57 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

No - i'll keep it simple

Stand next to but at the bottom of a relatively high sand dune where you can see the ocean that there is a ship on

When you lose sight of the ship walk to the top of the sand dune and you will see a wee bit of it again

And?

Try this...

Stand at the shore until it appears that a ship has sailed over the 'horizon'.

Now, WITHOUT MOVING YOUR FEET, look through a good pair of binoculars, or a camera with a powerful zoom lens, or a telescope and you will understand how you thought that the ship sailed over the curvature of the earth (when it didn't).

[Scotty CTA]

Snipers (and those in charge of aiming artillery fire) don't take the curvature of the earth into consideration (because they don't have to).

 

[Scotty CTA]

'Biffer'... If I'm not mistaken, I believe that this video says that 443 km is the greatest distance captured with a zoom lens...

 

Edited September 12, 2017 by Scotty CTA

[Toepoke]

1 hour ago, Scotty CTA said:

And the flat earth (so what's your point?)

It was kumnio's point that the fastest flightpaths look curved (on a Mercator map). I recommend taking a globe and a piece of string and searching for the shortest length to connect two cities, it becomes clearer then.

 

1 hour ago, Scotty CTA said:

Contact me again when you are actually on one of these imaginary flights.

I see Quantas will sell me a seat on Thursday's flight from Sydney to Jo'burg for $1600 but I'm a bit busy this week....

 

[Scotty CTA]

The direct flights over the South Pole are definitely listed, but you can't book them and if you did you definitely wouldn't be able to get on them.

[biffer]

5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

I'm not fishing

On a flat earth, could a normal (non NWO) citizen see North America from Ireland?

Is that type of telescope available to the average Joe

 

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On 10/09/2017 at 7:30 PM, Scotty CTA said:

 

How big is the thing you're trying to see? That's what matters, not the distance. 

[biffer]

5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

'Biffer'... If I'm not mistaken, I believe that this video says that 443 km is the greatest distance captured with a zoom lens...

 

It's wrong. I can take a photo of the moon and its 300,000km away. 

[Flat Earth]

6 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

I'm not fishing.

Once again, I'm completely serious.

 

Na, I'm not buying that...

[Parklife]

5 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

The direct flights over the South Pole are definitely listed, but you can't book them and if you did you definitely wouldn't be able to get on them.

So they list flights and it's all part of the conspiracy to convince folk that the world is a sphere? 

What about the pilots or cabin crew who're meant to be on the flights? Or the air traffic control staff? Are they all in on this? 

[biffer]

1 hour ago, Parklife said:

So they list flights and it's all part of the conspiracy to convince folk that the world is a sphere? 

What about the pilots or cabin crew who're meant to be on the flights? Or the air traffic control staff? Are they all in on this? 

Don't worry about it, everyone I work with or meet professionally must be in on it as well.

[thplinth]

Apparently there is a flat earth alternative explanation for all stuff indicating a round earth - this has been about for years. It appeals to Scotty as it 'proves' there must be a God.

For example - there is no gravity only falling - that was funny but actually gravity is accounted for the disc rising at 9.81m/s - obvious really.

Different shadows cast at noon in different latitudes - easy - you get same result if you assume the sun is 32 miles across and 5000 miles away.

How do you get day and night - with a 'spotlight sun'.

[thplinth]

There used to be a sight seeing flight over Antarctica - google Mount Erebus disaster.

[biffer]

43 minutes ago, thplinth said:

Apparently there is a flat earth alternative explanation for all stuff indicating a round earth - this has been about for years. It appeals to Scotty as it 'proves' there must be a God.

For example - there is no gravity only falling - that was funny but actually gravity is accounted for the disc rising at 9.81m/s - obvious really.

Different shadows cast at noon in different latitudes - easy - you get same result if you assume the sun is 32 miles across and 5000 miles away.

How do you get day and night - with a 'spotlight sun'.

And that's the problem. You get people saying 'I've done some research and...' but they haven't done any actual research, they've just read stuff online. They haven't done any real tests or experiments under any kind of controlled conditions, So they don't understand the findings of science and its governing laws, some of which are contrary to common sense but are fundamental to the understanding of the world around us. The really ironic thing about it is that they don't realise that if it wasn't for the solidity of these findings, the fact that they are true, provable and usable, the internet wouldn't work and they wouldn't be able post their bullshit on it. I've actually been in a lab, done experiments, measured gravity, measured the speed of light, demonstrated and derived the fundamental laws on which these things are based, and that is why I know them to be factual, and properly understand the limitations and constraints of our knowledge. I spent years studying to understand it properly, and doing the practical work to back up the theory. When someone has done the same as that, I might take them seriously.

 

Oh, and just to add, the little slight that Scott has about 'can non-NWO people access these telescopes', well yes they can, if you're prepared to put years of study in to understand what the hell you're doing with them. I work with people everyday who use them, and build equipment for them. AS a comparison, you can't 'access' an MRI machine right now but if you were prepared to put the effort into getting a medical degree and the right specialisation, then you could.

Edited September 12, 2017 by biffer

[biffer]

10 hours ago, Scotty CTA said:

 

On a flat earth, could a normal (non NWO) citizen see North America from Ireland?

 

 

 

Just checked. From 3000km with a telescope with a 30cm aperture, you can see an object 6km across. 

 

Resolvable size = Distance from target in metres * tan(1.22*wavelength of light in metres /aperture size in metres)

 

You can buy a 30cm telescope off the shelf, for example here https://www.tringastro.co.uk/meade-lx90-acf-12-f10-with-standard-field-tripod-10812-p.asp

 

Edited September 12, 2017 by biffer

[Guest BlueGaz]

39 minutes ago, biffer said:

Just checked. From 3000km with a telescope with a 30cm aperture, you can see an object 6km across. 

 

Resolvable size = Distance from target in metres * tan(1.22*wavelength of light in metres /aperture size in metres)

 

You can buy a 30cm telescope off the shelf, for example here https://www.tringastro.co.uk/meade-lx90-acf-12-f10-with-standard-field-tripod-10812-p.asp

 

Never thought I would come across tan again after leaving school.

[biffer]

16 minutes ago, BlueGaz said:

Never thought I would come across tan again after leaving school.

[Guest BlueGaz]

1 minute ago, biffer said:

[McDange]

 

[Flat Earth]

12 hours ago, thplinth said:

There used to be a sight seeing flight over Antarctica - google Mount Erebus disaster.

Didn't happen. Same as the missile that hit the pentagon.

[Ally Bongo]

37 minutes ago, Flat Earth said:

Didn't happen. Same as the missile that hit the pentagon.

I'm confused

Google says it did and there wisny a missile

Whats the connection ?

The flight was sabotaged as it had proof of a flat earth ?

[Scotty CTA]

20 hours ago, thplinth said:

There used to be a sight seeing flight over Antarctica.

Folk in the plane wouldn't know where they were.

Try sailing around 'Antarctica' in a ship like Captain Cook tried to.

[Scotty CTA]

20 hours ago, thplinth said:

Apparently there is a flat earth alternative explanation for all stuff indicating a round earth - this has been about for years. It appeals to Scotty as it 'proves' there must be a God.

Like 'Al Capone' having 2 sets of books.

The government gets the fake numbers (and so do we through the education system and media propaganda).

20 hours ago, thplinth said:

For example - there is no gravity only falling...

There is only weight and density.

20 hours ago, thplinth said:

Different shadows cast at noon in different latitudes - easy - you get same result if you assume the sun is 32 miles across and 5000 miles away.

How do you get day and night - with a 'spotlight sun'.

Yep.

The flat earth geocentric model works.

[Scotty CTA]

8 hours ago, Flat Earth said:

Didn't happen. Same as the missile that hit the pentagon.

 

[Scotty CTA]

 

[thplinth]

Been flown over many times apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Antarctica#By_air

But the one that catches you eye...

Quote

 

Overland crossing[edit]
Main article: Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition

Hillary (left) with Rear-Admiral George J. Dufek at Scott Base just before the Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition's departure from the base.
The 1955–58 Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition successfully completed the first overland crossing of Antarctica, via the South Pole. Although supported by the British and other Commonwealth governments, most of the funding came from corporate and individual donations.

It was headed by British explorer Dr Vivian Fuchs, with New Zealander Sir Edmund Hillary leading the New Zealand Ross Sea Support team. After spending the winter of 1957 at Shackleton Base, Fuchs finally set out on the transcontinental journey in November 1957, with a twelve-man team travelling in six vehicles; three Sno-Cats, two Weasels and one specially adapted Muskeg tractor. On route, the team were also tasked with carrying out scientific research including seismic soundings and gravimetric readings.

In parallel Hillary's team had set up Scott Base – which was to be Fuchs' final destination – on the opposite side of the continent at McMurdo Sound on the Ross Sea. Using three converted Massey Ferguson TE20 tractors[64] and one Weasel (abandoned part-way), Hillary and his three men (Ron Balham, Peter Mulgrew and Murray Ellis), were responsible for route-finding and laying a line of supply depots up the Skelton Glacier and across the Polar Plateau on towards the South Pole, for the use of Fuchs on the final leg of his journey. Other members of Hillary's team carried out geological surveys around the Ross Sea and Victoria Land areas.

Hillary's party reached the South Pole on January 3, 1958, and was just the third (preceded by Amundsen in 1911 and Scott in 1912) to reach the Pole overland. Fuchs' team reached the Pole from the opposite direction on 19 January 1958, where they met up with Hillary. Fuchs then continued overland, following the route that Hillary had laid and on 2 March succeeded in reaching Scott Base, completing the first overland crossing of the continent by land via the South Pole.[13]

 

Over to you Scotty... 

Wait does this mean Everest does not exist neither?