Ally Bongo Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Regressive little Englander nationalism is going to drive everyone in the UK to the poor hoose to "get control back" Scotland needs to get out Sadly there are many people in Scotland who clearly support this regressive type of English Nationalism than they are with a potentially progressive Independent Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Using all this 'regressive' and 'progressive' language makes you sound indoctrinated with all that identity politics rubbish. Lets not attach that menu du jour garbage to the aim of independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, thplinth said: Using all this 'regressive' and 'progressive' language makes you sound indoctrinated with all that identity politics rubbish. Lets not attach that menu du jour garbage to the aim of independence. Mince - get with the times Out of date political labels are Liberal, Conservative, Left and Right etc Regressive politics generally benefit those who are in least need of assistance. They divide society; prove destructive; and foster violence, greed, secrecy, and corruption. They repress participation in democratic processes and retard the intellectual and social growth of communities often through the use of fear mongering and intimidation Progressive politics benefit a broad spectrum of society, build cohesive communities, and are constructive by nature. They help society progress by increasing participation in democratic processes; promoting transparency in government; encouraging peaceful resolution of problems; and demonstrating responsibility, integrity, and respect. And yes - i have copied and pasted as it's late and i'm going to bed I would just have said regressive is building walls, making lists, isolating yourself where progressive is the opposite Edited November 25, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Probably need Betablockers for tomorrow night's show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Probably need Betablockers for tomorrow night's show No representative from the government? Very unusual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: No representative from the government? Very unusual... That's Ruthie's job. Odds on her being the Wakefield Tory candidate in 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think I'll give that a miss tonight. Tank Girl arse-licking, doing down Scotland "but I'm not really one of them", digs at the SNP and false assertions that nobody sensible wants independence. She really is an odious wee proud Scot but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 9 hours ago, Dave78 said: That's Ruthie's job. Odds on her being the Wakefield Tory candidate in 2020? She'll need to do well tonight then, it's been a Labour seat since 1932! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: She'll need to do well tonight then, it's been a Labour seat since 1932! Ach, come on, everyone loves Ruthie. As soon as the good people of Wakefield see her sitting on a piece of military equipment and/or a large farmyard animal they will be putty in her hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 I wonder how she will deal with immigration/Brexit, how to pander to the UK majority who seem to want less of it, and Brexit to mean Brexit, versus the Scottish need for immigration and Scottish preference for EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, exile said: I wonder how she will deal with immigration/Brexit, how to pander to the UK majority who seem to want less of it, and Brexit to mean Brexit, versus the Scottish need for immigration and Scottish preference for EU She's a born again brexiteer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) It's a different world down there That audience - wow "I'm not interested in someone from Lithuania who wants to buy batteries" "We should just leave without signing article 50" "Just leave Europe to implode and rot" Edited December 1, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If Ruth wants to get elected in Wakefield it sounds like she better switch to UKIP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I thought Nigel Farage and Louise Mench being on next week was a wind up It isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I thought Nigel Farage and Louise Mench being on next week was a wind up It isnt You're lucky, at least you haven't applied to be in the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, aaid said: You're lucky, at least you haven't applied to be in the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Why does anyone watch this pish? I gave up years ago and it's made my life a happier place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 0:01 AM, Ally Bongo said: Mince - get with the times Out of date political labels are Liberal, Conservative, Left and Right etc Regressive politics generally benefit those who are in least need of assistance. They divide society; prove destructive; and foster violence, greed, secrecy, and corruption. They repress participation in democratic processes and retard the intellectual and social growth of communities often through the use of fear mongering and intimidation Progressive politics benefit a broad spectrum of society, build cohesive communities, and are constructive by nature. They help society progress by increasing participation in democratic processes; promoting transparency in government; encouraging peaceful resolution of problems; and demonstrating responsibility, integrity, and respect. And yes - i have copied and pasted as it's late and i'm going to bed I would just have said regressive is building walls, making lists, isolating yourself where progressive is the opposite "Progressive" is the most over used and incorrectly used soundbite in Scottish politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 http://www.thecanary.co/2016/12/05/fresh-scandal-erupts-bbc-might-explain-question-time-became-right-wing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 On 12/2/2016 at 9:02 PM, Alan said: "Progressive" is the most over used and incorrectly used soundbite in Scottish politics. It is a dog whistle for idiots. All these 'progressives' voting for Hillary yet if they had looked beyond the labels she was a hideous warmongering neocon lunatic who did not give a for black folk, women or any other good cause she allegedly 'progressed'. It is noticeable these dumbo's have nothing to say on actual policies anymore, it has all been replaced with this retarded identity politics shite. It is political arse gravy distilled to near 100% purity. Anyone who buys into it might as well hang a giant neon arrow pointing at themselves with the sub title I am thick. The badge of a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TDYER63 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 hour ago, thplinth said: It is a dog whistle for idiots. All these 'progressives' voting for Hillary yet if they had looked beyond the labels she was a hideous warmongering neocon lunatic who did not give a for black folk, women or any other good cause she allegedly 'progressed'. It is noticeable these dumbo's have nothing to say on actual policies anymore, it has all been replaced with this retarded identity politics shite. It is political arse gravy distilled to near 100% purity. Anyone who buys into it might as well hang a giant neon arrow pointing at themselves with the sub title I am thick. The badge of a fool. So, do you like Clinton and her progressive supporters or not ? Sometimes you are a hard guy to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Tomorrow nights"s panel from Maidenhead. Louise Mensch, Nigel Farage, Dr. Sarah Wolleaston, Richard Burgon. Will Self. aaid, thankfully *not* in the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Twat, utter cnt, total twat, twat wannabee and semi good guy. Thank god Ive stopped watching this pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, kumnio said: Twat, utter cnt, total twat, twat wannabee and semi good guy. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/donald-trump-beats-nigel-farage-9409812 Trump saves the world yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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