Larky Masher Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 hours ago, euan2020 said: not true - 1 of the guys volunteered information straight away back in 2012 only introduced to trial now cos the alleged language used by the female was similar, so defence used this to co-oberate what Evans was claiming she said He was interviewed in 2011 but did mention the "go harder" request even though police say a direct question about that was asked., he wasn't interviewed again until 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Returning to Sheffield United http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39844981 Edited May 8, 2017 by dandydunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 any comment from jess ennis hill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, dan cake said: any comment from jess ennis hill? Aye, he's still a scumbag waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Aye, he's still a scumbag waste of space. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Why? By his own admission, he cheated on his girlfriend to have sex with a drunk girl at a party, then phoned a mate to come round as well. He also found a legal way to bring her previous sexual history into court, normally prohibited, in order to prove that she was 'up for it'. Innocent in law perhaps, but I'm definitely in the "scumbag waste of space" camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Huddersfield said: By his own admission, he cheated on his girlfriend to have sex with a drunk girl at a party, then phoned a mate to come round as well. Yup. Scumbag. Shouldn't stop him playing football though, nor land him in prison. 1 hour ago, Huddersfield said: He also found a legal way to bring her previous sexual history into court, normally prohibited, in order to prove that she was 'up for it'. Innocent in law perhaps, but I'm definitely in the "scumbag waste of space" camp. If i had been falsely accused of rape, not saying he was or wasn't but if he was, i would want my lawyer to anything that'd help prove my innocence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I'm not a fan of the school of thought that someone should make a mistake and have to pay for it for the rest of their lives. This also applies to the racist Rangers fans and the racist Celtic fan the Rangers fans have dug up (and claimed works at celtics training ground) involved in the morale point scoring between the 2. These guys have done something wrong/stupid/despicable..... but the consequences of the witch hunts against them can be a bit much. Regardless of innocence, there's enough evidence for people to make a judgement on Ched Evans, but i know for a fact that there's plenty footballers (and others) with equally low morales that aren't being hounded out of jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: I'm not a fan of the school of thought that someone should make a mistake and have to pay for it for the rest of their lives. This also applies to the racist Rangers fans and the racist Celtic fan the Rangers fans have dug up (and claimed works at celtics training ground) involved in the morale point scoring between the 2. These guys have done something wrong/stupid/despicable..... but the consequences of the witch hunts against them can be a bit much. Regardless of innocence, there's enough evidence for people to make a judgement on Ched Evans, but i know for a fact that there's plenty footballers (and others) with equally low morales that aren't being hounded out of jobs. Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. 16 hours ago, dan cake said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. It's weird that you're so moralistic when you support a club that, for decades, openly used a sectarian recruitment policy. 20 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. No, rape is a legal term. You can't just say "regardless of legal definition". I'm sure you know that, if you think logically. The guy is clearly a bit of a scumbag though, no arguments from me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. No he's not. Hes clearly not wired up right,but his conviction was quashed in a court of law. I've had sex with lassies when we've both been out of it after a night on the lash,including my wife. Does that make me a rapist too? Edited May 9, 2017 by dandydunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, dandydunn said: I've had sex with lassies ..... Don't believe you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, dandydunn said: I've had sex with lassies when we've both been out of it after a night on the lash,including my wife. Always been jealous of those that can manage on a swallyfull. I could never get wood on when blootered. 'Er indoors has giving up trying now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, dandydunn said: No he's not. Hes clearly not wired up right,but his conviction was quashed in a court of law. I've had sex with lassies when we've both been out of it after a night on the lash,including my wife. Does that make me a rapist too? Pretty sure Evans was sober and drove to the hotel to meet his mate and the lassie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. While I don't think I'd want to go for a pint with him, and certainly wouldn't want him dating my sister/daughter. I don't think I'd stop supporting my club because they signed him. As parkie likes to remind us, gazza was/is a wife beater as an example. Is that ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Parklife said: Pretty sure Evans was sober and drove to the hotel to meet his mate and the lassie. Was he? Makes me feel rather guilty now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, dandydunn said: Was he? Makes me feel rather guilty now Yeah, IIRC, his mate met the girl and texted Evans to come at meet them at the hotel where the incident occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 4 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. 4 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Not hounding him out of anything but if he turned up at my club, that would be the end of my support for them. Regardless of the legal definitions, he's a rapist. Serious question, why is he a rapist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 See David Goodwillie scored for Clyde at the weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Parklife said: It's weird that you're so moralistic when you support a club that, for decades, openly used a sectarian recruitment policy. No, rape is a legal term. You can't just say "regardless of legal definition". I'm sure you know that, if you think logically. The guy is clearly a bit of a scumbag though, no arguments from me on that. I have withdrawn my support before due to the ineffective efforts at stamping out sectarianism and would do so again. Fortunately I wasn't going to games when the policy you mention was in place. And you're right, rape is a legal term but I'm just expressing my opinion. If a sober guy answers a text from a mate to go and shag a drunk girl he doesn't know when he already has a partner, I'd say he's a rapist. I understand the law disagrees. 7 hours ago, Parklife said: It's weird that you're so moralistic when you support a club that, for decades, openly used a sectarian recruitment policy. No, rape is a legal term. You can't just say "regardless of legal definition". I'm sure you know that, if you think logically. The guy is clearly a bit of a scumbag though, no arguments from me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 6 hours ago, dandydunn said: No he's not. Hes clearly not wired up right,but his conviction was quashed in a court of law. I've had sex with lassies when we've both been out of it after a night on the lash,including my wife. Does that make me a rapist too? Nope, he was sober and drove to a hotel on the word of his friend. He hadn't even spoken to the girl. In my opinion he's a rapist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 hours ago, sbcmfc said: While I don't think I'd want to go for a pint with him, and certainly wouldn't want him dating my sister/daughter. I don't think I'd stop supporting my club because they signed him. As parkie likes to remind us, gazza was/is a wife beater as an example. Is that ok? Nope, it's not and if I remember correctly that only came out after he left Rangers or just before. Gazza is also slightly different as he has been medically diagnosed with mental health issues. That's no defence of course but I don't think it puts him in the same boat as Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 3 hours ago, hauniscots said: Serious question, why is he a rapist? My opinion only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Nope, it's not and if I remember correctly that only came out after he left Rangers or just before. Gazza is also slightly different as he has been medically diagnosed with mental health issues. That's no defence of course but I don't think it puts him in the same boat as Evans. Is sleeping with a drunk girl who the courts have decided wanted to sleep with them worse than beating up your wife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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