hannibal smith Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Seeing as he was born in London, how exactly does Paterson qualify for Scotland ? Just out of interest. grew up in south Queensferry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 In an ideal World every one of our players would be born and bred Scotsmen, in fact when I was younger I would have gone further and said if you don't play in Scotland you can't play for Scotland. Luckily I have matured over the years and recognise that nationality is not cut and dried. I want Scotland to do as well as possible while sticking to the rules of international football. Bardsley has played 13 times for us and has never let us down, that will do for me If yer Scottish yer Scottish, if yer english yer no. Just because yer born in a stable disnae mean yer a horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If yer Scottish yer Scottish, if yer english yer no. Just because yer born in a stable disnae mean yer a horse. Whats Steven Fletcher then? English aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 grew up in south Queensferry Cheers. Were his parents or grandparents from Scotland though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 No harm to Paterson but, like MacLeod, he doesn't merit a call up whilst playing outside the top flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Whats Steven Fletcher then? English aye? Having read some of your other posts, you're clearly not a complete idiot, so I assume you're just deliberately misunderstanding Bzzzz's point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If yer Scottish yer Scottish, if yer english yer no. Just because yer born in a stable disnae mean yer a horse. oh dear, that's so simplistic but I guess you know that. Some of grandsons have an english father and a Scottish mother, most of them were born in england and most of them live in Scotland. What are they??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland billy Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 In an ideal World every one of our players would be born and bred Scotsmen, in fact when I was younger I would have gone further and said if you don't play in Scotland you can't play for Scotland. Luckily I have matured over the years and recognise that nationality is not cut and dried. I want Scotland to do as well as possible while sticking to the rules of international football. Bardsley has played 13 times for us and has never let us down, that will do for me He was pish in america!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 oh dear, that's so simplistic but I guess you know that. Some of grandsons have an english father and a Scottish mother, most of them were born in england and most of them live in Scotland. What are they??? Ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not at the moment he doesn't. He's been playing at centre-half for Norwich and some fans want him either dropped or moved to right-back. Steven Whittaker was described in very disparaging terms by Norwich journalists on twitter for his performance in midweek... Yeah, it seems Martin had a nightmare when Norwich got beat 4-0 from Middlesbrough last week. Against Forest Whittaker was dropped and Martin played right-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonmk Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ask them. Where were you born? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Forest Whittaker was dropped and Martin played right-back. Did they suss that he was only acting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ask them. a couple english, one leaning to Scottish and 2 50/50. Now what? Anyway, I can see this is getting nowhere so I'll continue to support anyone in the blue of Scotland and you can continue to support only those who you feel are sufficiently Scottish for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Having read some of your other posts, you're clearly not a complete idiot, so I assume you're just deliberately misunderstanding Bzzzz's point. But if its 'If yer Scottish yer Scottish, if yer English yer English, if yer born in a stable doesnt mean yer a horse' surely that implies that only people born here are Scottish? Which Steven Fletcher wasnt, so I am wondering if he thinks of Fletcher as English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Its a grey area. For example Bzzz was born in England, but clearly sees himself as Scottish. Not Scottish as us born here of course, but he can't help that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Cheers. Were his parents or grandparents from Scotland though ? dont know asked the question on Jambos Kickback and got the usual smartarse replies seems they dont know either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 With a name like Callum Patterson I'd say his Scottish ancestry is in little doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison1982 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) dont know asked the question on Jambos Kickback and got the usual smartarse replies seems they dont know either Even if his parents and grandparents weren't born in Scotland he almost certainly qualifies under the education (Rhodes / Driver / Feruz) rule. There's a Daily Record article from 2012 where he's quoted saying that he was with Tynecastle BC for eight years. Edited November 10, 2014 by morrison1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 With a name like Callum Patterson I'd say his Scottish ancestry is in little doubt... what about Callum Paterson ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 what about Callum Paterson ? Peddant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) *cocked that up* Edited November 10, 2014 by EvilScotsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Forest Whittaker was dropped and Martin played right-back. Did they suss that he was only acting? Thought this deserved some credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) But if its 'If yer Scottish yer Scottish, if yer English yer English, if yer born in a stable doesnt mean yer a horse' surely that implies that only people born here are Scottish? Which Steven Fletcher wasnt, so I am wondering if he thinks of Fletcher as English? No it doesn't. Read it slowly and think about it... Edited November 10, 2014 by Bzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in5omniac Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 McArthur's out with an injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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