Deedee Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 There's no point considering the Dunblane to Perth bit - why they put average cams on that part of the A9 is the supposedly same reason they put them on the A77 going into Prestwick which is now at a 50mph limit. Comparing the two is daft. My understanding of it, and I'm happy for any info to correct me, is north of Dunkeld, all the cameras are linked via radio frequency and the distance between the cams therefore has a line of sight maximum distance. Over Drumochter or the Slochd summits, the cams are out of line of sight and therefore can't connect. So, if you're wanting to chance not getting done, stay around 61/62 average between cameras on the single carriageways and launch it as soon as you get to the duals. However, I won't be the first to try this until some further research has been done by others Overall, I don't think it'll make much difference in usual daytime traffic, as the fast drivers will still overtake where they can, but the old clear night's 75 mins from Sneckie to Perth is definitely a goner now http://a9road.info/resources/faqs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 In a reasonably powerful car that doesn't have cruise control it's pretty easy for your speed to creep up to 80 odds without noticing, unless you watch your speedo instead of the road. I think I'm quite a good driver when I'm sober, and I realise when I'm getting too fast, over 80 is too fast most places, others 70 is the limit, but still feels too fast... I don't understand that. Are you saying that as a reasonably good driver you can't always be in control of the car's speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't understand that. Are you saying that as a reasonably good driver you can't always be in control of the car's speed? I think it depends on how many pints he's had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I think it depends on how many pints he's had. Ah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://a9road.info/resources/faqs/ Thanks for posting that. Proved to be a bit of an education. So, for truck drivers, apart from the A9, the speed limit on a single carriageway is going to be different in Scotland, to that of England and Wales??? Is it any wonder I get confused.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 http://a9road.info/resources/faqs/ Cheers, Davie, but it doesn't tell you how to avoid getting done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cheers, Davie, but it doesn't tell you how to avoid getting done Tell them your wife was driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Cheers, Davie, but it doesn't tell you how to avoid getting done Let me drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why not, and I know this might be controversial, stick to the speed limits and plan your journey times to suit? Because we're not all retired yet, we can't all simply saunter up to Aonach Mor for a day's skiing whenever the weather's good. Maybe folk want to maximise their remaining time to continue to enjoy their fun-packed adrenalin fuelled youth as it diminishes before their very, as yet unspectacled, eyes every day? As has been said on this thread already, there's no reason why the A9 can't be driven at 80-90mph quite safely when it's quiet. That is the bummer. Early morning, late evening fast routes are no more - during the day, it won't make much difference I don't think. But, an hour saved driving up the A9 is (was) an hour's more fun doing something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Let me drive Might be too slow to get to the slopes You any plans for the snow yet? - PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Because we're not all retired yet, we can't all simply saunter up to Aonach Mor for a day's skiing whenever the weather's good. Maybe folk want to maximise their remaining time to continue to enjoy their fun-packed adrenalin fuelled youth as it diminishes before their very, as yet unspectacled, eyes every day? As has been said on this thread already, there's no reason why the A9 can't be driven at 80-90mph quite safely when it's quiet. That is the bummer. Early morning, late evening fast routes are no more - during the day, it won't make much difference I don't think. But, an hour saved driving up the A9 is (was) an hour's more fun doing something better. Not if you are lying on a mortuary slab having got your braking distances wrong! Or caused someone else to crash with a dangerous overtake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofoi Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The car - the shield of invincibility! It'll never happen to me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Tuned in as well. Couldn't believe F@nny Alexander making party politics out of it. If it saves lives then surely it's a good thing? Never heard him but can't say I'm surprised. Hope he got asked what he thought of the LibDems blocking dualling the A9 to approve Edinburgh trams instead. I did hear a bit of the anti-speed camera group guy and he was all "SNP this...SNP that", came across as having a bit of a political agenda too... Edited October 29, 2014 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Why not, and I know this might be controversial, stick to the speed limits and plan your journey times to suit?The speed limits are outdated. Modern cars can safely go much faster than they could 30 years ago. As I said previously, folk who think going over 70mph is unsafe make me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The speed limits are outdated. Modern cars can safely go much faster than they could 30 years ago. As I said previously, folk who think going over 70mph is unsafe make me laugh. No argument from me there. But the campaign should be to have more appropriate speed limits - not to have individuals trying to find ways to beat the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The speed limits are outdated. Modern cars can safely go much faster than they could 30 years ago. As I said previously, folk who think going over 70mph is unsafe make me laugh. Parkie it's not the cars that are the problem it's the wobbly bit driving that is... work it out how much time is saved by breaking current speed limits from Perth to Inverness? Is a life worth an extra 10-15 mins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigtownshire-Matt Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Disagree a bit, they certainly made a difference on the A77 where there were many accidents around at-grade junctions, as there are between Dunblane and Perth. South of Monkton Lodge the cameras are never turned on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljay Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 South of Monkton Lodge the cameras are never turned on. Really? Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Average speed cameras on the dualled section between Stirling & Perth is a fecking disgrace IMO. Nothing but a money making scheme that'll do feck all to make the road safer. Totally agree there is no reason for this stretch to have them People who think driving faster than 70mph is "dangerous" make me lol. Indeed. It is about the driving conditions not speed What i find "mental" is that a motorist doesn't know that. It's basic knowledge that i'd expect even non-drivers to know. I am absolutely astonished (copywrite J Lamont.) I suppose it comes down to when you passed your test. I am pretty sure that when I passed my test ( a wee while ago) the speed limit was either 30 or 70 unless there are signs saying otherwise. I assume some roads have been downgraded to 60 at some point. Nae idea when that happened. Nobody told me. It has always been like this nothing has changed. I think maybe dementia is setting in Not if you are lying on a mortuary slab having got your braking distances wrong! Or caused someone else to crash with a dangerous overtake. That is about bad driving not speed people can do these things while still staying under the speed limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Very slightly off topic. Yesterday i saw 2 families being a few inches from getting wiped out in a head on collision. 100% wouldn`t have happened if the car coming towards me had his headlights on instead of just his sidelights. Looked like he was a good bit away and the car behind overtook me. Was a whole lot closer than he thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 No argument from me there. But the campaign should be to have more appropriate speed limits - not to have individuals trying to find ways to beat the system. Indeed. But if you have outdated laws then folk will break them. Parkie it's not the cars that are the problem it's the wobbly bit driving that is... work it out how much time is saved by breaking current speed limits from Perth to Inverness? Is a life worth an extra 10-15 mins? My life isn't in more jeopardy driving 80mph than it is driving 70mph though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deedee Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 My life isn't in more jeopardy driving 80mph than it is driving 70mph though. Depends on the conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Depends on the conditions. All driving should be tailored to the road conditions. Sometimes 70mph on a motorway is too fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Basic physics says a crash at 80mph is more dangerous than a crash at 50mph (all other things being equal). Edited October 29, 2014 by biffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Basic physics says a crash at 80mph is more dangerous than a crash at 50mph (all other things being equal). So we should probably just walk everywhere, as a crash at 30mph is more dangerous than a collision at walking pace. Basic physics in action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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