brant grebner Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The only player who will keep Tony Watt out of the team will be Steven Fletcher. Fletcher will be rejuvenated by his move to Sheffield Wednesday and I reckon he will have one of the best ever scoring seasons of his career - 8 or 9 Championship goals by April and maybe 2 more in the league cup to take him to 11 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, brant grebner said: The only player who will keep Tony Watt out of the team will be Steven Fletcher. Fletcher will be rejuvenated by his move to Sheffield Wednesday and I reckon he will have one of the best ever scoring seasons of his career - 8 or 9 Championship goals by April and maybe 2 more in the league cup to take him to 11 overall. Scored a nice one the other night,do friendlies count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2 assists, 2 goals for Fletch in the last two friendlies i think. Seems to have slotted in well there. Hopefully being full of confidence will make a big difference when he plays for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 18 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: SSN are saying that Norwich have bid £10,000,000 for Ross McCormack. Liam Bridcutt may be signing for Leeds permanently. It's strange that no EPL clubs seem too interested in a player who can command such large transfer fees in the Championship. Might not be good news for Naismith if he goes to Norwich, since they play in similar positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 1 minute ago, scotlad said: It's strange that no EPL clubs seem too interested in a player who can command such large transfer fees in the Championship. Not really. He's a proven goal scorer in that division but a complete unknown quantity at the higher level and therefore represents more of a risk. Given that he's 30 in a couple of weeks, he's not one for the future either. Therefore you'd be taking a chance on a player unproven in that division who would have no resale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I'd have expected a Sunderland, Crystal Palace or Bournemouth to have shown interest in him. They've got enough money being in the premier league still, and aren't blessed with quality options up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 16 minutes ago, andyD said: I'd have expected a Sunderland, Crystal Palace or Bournemouth to have shown interest in him. They've got enough money being in the premier league still, and aren't blessed with quality options up front. Maybe that just shows he isn't good enough for the EPL. Craig Bryson, Barry Bannan etc - Players who looks good in the championship but then out their depth at EPL or international level. Can almost hear the Barry Bannan defenders frantically typing from here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Maybe that just shows he isn't good enough for the EPL. I'm not sure what he's lacking that would make someone think he can't do it at that level tho. He's not the quickest, but the rest of his game is pretty solid. Who knows. maybe Moyes will take a look given he has i think 1 striker on his books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 9 hours ago, scotlad said: It's strange that no EPL clubs seem too interested in a player who can command such large transfer fees in the Championship. Might not be good news for Naismith if he goes to Norwich, since they play in similar positions. I think Naismith is in serious decline now anyway. In the last twelve months he's looked really poor at club and international level. It's time Norwich looked for a replacement and Strachan should be doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Has Naismith not been scoring in pre-season? Pretty sure I saw his name go by the other day. Naismith's plenty good enough to let Norwich make a serious promotion challenge this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 1 minute ago, andyD said: Has Naismith not been scoring in pre-season? Pretty sure I saw his name go by the other day. Naismith's plenty good enough to let Norwich make a serious promotion challenge this season. What do goals in laid back pre-season friendly matches prove though ? I remember Chris Killin (remember him ? The Kiwi Kevin Kyle) going on a goal scoring spree during a Celtic pre-season once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 they don't mean anything in particular, but they are an indication of how ap layer is doing. for example, fletcher scoring 2 and getting 2 assists recently for sheffield wednesday has been seen on here as a good sign that he's made a decent choice with that move, that he seems to fit into the team well and will likely be an important part of what was a successful team last season and that will probably repeat that this season. On paper, Norwich are a strong team in the Championship and should be up there with Wednesday (and Newcastle, Derby, Brighton, Villa) so why Naismith's performance in pre-season should be frowned upon or dismissed seems like a double standard. His time at Norwich seems to have been well looked on by their fans so far, tho it's always hard coming into a team that is already in a relegation scrap. For both players, the proof will be once the serious games get underway, but I don't see a reason to discard Naismith yet. He wouldn't be in the starting 11 for us right now if i were picking the team, but he's obviously a decent player who works hard and hopefully will get some confidence back by finding the back of the net this season, just as Fletcher will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 27 July 2016 at 1:20 PM, aaid said: Not really. He's a proven goal scorer in that division but a complete unknown quantity at the higher level and therefore represents more of a risk. Given that he's 30 in a couple of weeks, he's not one for the future either. Therefore you'd be taking a chance on a player unproven in that division who would have no resale value. That same logic applies to Championship teams though. He is obviously attractive to Championship sides because he has a track record of scoring goals in that division, and ambitious Championship teams will hope those goals will get them promoted. It seems unlikely that a Championship club would be prepared to spend that amount of money on a player just to help keep their heads above water or to jettison him as soon as they are promoted; like you say, he's nearly 30 so the chances of recouping any large transfer fee is diminishing rapidly. I know the transfer market in England is overheated but there can't be that big a gulf in standard between the Championship and the bottom half of the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanDave Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 West Ham with a 7 million bid for Robertson rejected. Don't think he'd get a game over Cresswell personally. Hull fans on twitter want the fee trebled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 On 27 July 2016 at 3:52 PM, ProudScot said: Maybe that just shows he isn't good enough for the EPL. Craig Bryson, Barry Bannan etc - Players who looks good in the championship but then out their depth at EPL or international level. Can almost hear the Barry Bannan defenders frantically typing from here..... aye, frantic numerous responses. Maybe they just saw the irony of you suggesting someone else was out their depth....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 4 hours ago, TartanDave said: West Ham with a 7 million bid for Robertson rejected. Don't tlookinghe'd get a game over Cresswell personally. Hull fans on twitter want the fee trebled Cresswell has got injured and is out for a few months , i presume this is why West Ham are looking at Robertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanDave Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 12 hours ago, noctonjock said: Cresswell has got injured and is out for a few months , i presume this is why West Ham are looking at Robertson I see, still think Cresswell is a better player. Not sure Robertson would get a look in when both fit. I rate Cresswell as one of the best left backs in that league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 I'd rather see Robertson stay put and for West Ham to recall Stephen Hendrie to fill the gap for a few months. Does his loan to Blackburn allow for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Gordon Greer has signed for Blackburn after his release from Brighton at the end of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Scott Allan to Rotherham in the championship on loan for the rest of the season. BBC Gossip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 McCormack to Villa for £13m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: McCormack to Villa for £13m. When that goes through he must be the most expensive Scottish player in history for combined transfer fees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 hours ago, ProudScot said: When that goes through he must be the most expensive Scottish player in history for combined transfer fees? Must also be the most expensive ever Championship player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Just shows what utter dross scotland have to choose from at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahana-oni Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Donald Love gone to Sunderland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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