perthTam Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Well, more experienced punters, what are your thoughts on the Derby? Is it as clean cut for Golden Horn as the odds suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm struggling to see past it. Heading down Saturday morning - few jars in Leatherhead then off to Epsom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Although I'm only experienced in losing money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 It's won the best trial over a wee bit further than 1 Mile 2 Furlongs The Derby is 1 Mile 4 furlongs There is no guarantee that it will stay the trip (probably will) and Dettori is on it (not a plus in 2015) It is far too short a price Gosden's other runner and second favourite is Jack Hobbs A really big horse who is improving with each run and definitely will stay Id rather have a fiver each way on Jack Hobbs at 11/2 than a tenner on Golden Horn at 15/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Jack Hobbs wins his first race Jack Hobbs and Golden Horn in the Dante (Group 2) 1 mile 2 furlongs Golden Horn, Jack Hobbs and Elm Park working at Epsom John Gosden discussed his Epsom runners Im concerned with the way Jack Hobbs carries his head to the right but he reminds me of Denman - a total monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Having watched Giovanni Canaletto I'm surprised that he's came into 6s from 16s ,his form just doesn't stack up to winning a Derby though Zawraq being a non runner certainly helps. Only one horse beaten in the Dante has won a Derby (Workforce) so Jack Hobbs & Elm Park are automatically scrubbed. Hans Holbien I thought was a good e/w bet but the money for GC puts me off. The French horse is a beast who might make the 25/1 on offer look silly,Group1 winner at two he might have needed his first run of 2015 though Silverwave done nothing for the form in the Prix De Jockey Club but Mme Head-Maarek doesn't send over horses for the shits and giggles. Success Days beat a horse by 10l who had previously beat Hans Holbien by 6l yet Hans Holbien is three points shorter. He won both Irish trials going left handed(the Ballysax & Derristown) by a combined 15l ,If he was trained by a more fashionable trainer than Ken Condon he would vying for favouritism with Golden Horn.He goes from the front so you'll either get a run for your money or know your fate early on. I can see Success Days taking them along and Golden Horn coming to do him swinging 2 out before finding nothing off the bridle ,with GC running into a place :-) 1.SD 2.GH 3.GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Edited June 5, 2015 by Toepoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I was going to say i fancied Legatissimo and Lady of Dubai.Thank feck I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Im going to have a saver e/w on Hans Holbein Should be an uncomplicated ride and will stay further than a mile and a half and probably more of a leger horse It's got less to prove albeit deserted by Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 ...and they're off. 7am flight to Gatwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm on Hans Holbein E/W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Really fancy Resonant in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 ####in went off the winner cause you fancied that rag fannybaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinetartan Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Storm the stars e\w gets my tenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 ####in went off the winner cause you fancied that rag fannybawsIf it's any consolation (and it probably isn't...) I'm suffering betting Armageddon down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 The way this thread started every single one of us should have had the forecast - but probably none of us did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 If it's any consolation (and it probably isn't...) I'm suffering betting Armageddon down here. I'll pray for you if you pray for me :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Although I did take your advice and switched from Golden Horn to the value offered by Success Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Although I did take your advice and switched from Golden Horn to the value offered by Success Days. Never travelled in the race.A 150/1 shot finished in front of him and Elm Park. Did you see American Pharoah ? The scenes at Belmont were unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm hoping Aidan O'Brien will be taken to task for not informing the public that Hans Holbein was going to be used as a pacemaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Never travelled in the race.A 150/1 shot finished in front of him and Elm Park. Did you see American Pharoah ? The scenes at Belmont were unbelievable The only other racing I saw yesterday was Musselburgh - not quite as glamorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Be interesting to see how Golden Horn goes against his elders and a fit again Zawraq.Time will tell but the middle distance classic bunch in the UK & Ireland look pretty average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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