sbcmfc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Thankfully I've just got my ST in an area that's been earmarked for it. 209.110,111,112. 2600 odd places Is that the green brigade section? (I presume they are back where they used to sit before they got banned, dispersed, then recongregated in the enclosure?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) No chance of all those changes in five years. Edited June 9, 2015 by jailender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPROAR Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 fantastic.... Killie are nearly there. We took loads of money from Celtic last few years to replace vandalised seats but we kept the money and replaced the seats with seats from the Moffat. If they smash a few hundred more they will pretty much leave the Moffat standing anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 fantastic.... Killie are nearly there. We took loads of money from Celtic last few years to replace vandalised seats but we kept the money and replaced the seats with seats from the Moffat. If they smash a few hundred more they will pretty much leave the Moffat standing anyway Aye, I'm pretty sure they could save a few bob on the removal of the old seats, their fans have plenty experience at ripping them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthTam Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 from 16/17. 15/16 would be better but suppose work needs to be carried out. This will hopefully pave the way for all Scottish clubs with all-seaters who want it, to start the process of introducing it - we will then see which local authorities are complete job's worths. With this, the pyramid system and play-offs, my wish list is becoming shorter. Now just awaiting: - summer football - rebranding (completely separate and distinguishable from the EPL) - alcohol permitted in grounds - better pre-match entertainment to encourage you to go to the ground and stadia area earlier (and contribute to the club's revenue). linked to the above point. At the current pace, maybe all of the above within 5 years......... Perth coouncil will be near the top of the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Apart from Celtic and Rangers, I can honestly not see many teams go ahead with this, as isn't the costs to install very expensive? Sure that was the line Aberdeen used when they were asked their stance on it. Also, I think it will be years before you see this being done in large area's within Scottish stadiums (is it just the two corners of Celtic Park that is being talked about as areas set aside for this?) so chances it will be years before we see (if we ever do) standing sections at the likes of Easter Road, Tynecastle, Rugby Park, Pittodrie (though Aberdeen have the advantage of a new stadium being planned, so can be integrated into those plans for when it ever gets off the ground). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I thought they already had this in their away end with the seats missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hearts are certs IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstroma Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 No chance of all those changes in five years.Will be in place for 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Hopefully UEFA/FIFA will relax the criteria and it could be done for Hampden internationals. If the East and West stands were converted you could be looking at a capacity of over 60,000. Far better to stand behind the goals at Hampden anyway... Edited June 9, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hopefully UEFA/FIFA will relax the criteria and it could be done for Hampden internationals. If the East and West stands were converted you could be looking at a capacity of over 60,000... Excellent, even more empty seats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Excellent, even more empty seats... Naw there'd be less seats. Another positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Think there is a bit of confusion over what they are actually considering at Celtic. It is different to Dortmund and other stadiums in Germany where the seating is wheeled out and in. What is being proposed is something like this, it doesn't increase the capacity at all as it is basically 1 seat to 1 safe standing. Not massively different to everyone standing at their seat with a barrier in front of them.Seats are put up to make it standing. In Dortmund and some other stadiums in Germany the terracing is different and is more like old school terracing you had where you could move about with barriers placed here and there. They wheel the seats in and out somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Won't let me post pictures but the safe standing proposed by Celtic is something like these http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8626243.ece/alternates/w620/pg-72-standing-trial.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Safe_standing_area_fitted_with_rail_seats.jpg Dortmund and other stadia in Germany are more like these http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42692000/jpg/_42692683_dortmund203.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6458843.stm&h=152&w=203&tbnid=KStx3BklKtBqAM:&zoom=1&docid=RxdnbM8jgCJueM&ei=PTx3VbT2I5GR7Aal8ILwDA&tbm=isch&ved=0CCQQMygFMAU http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/fotos/stadionguides/deutschland/rheinenergiestadion/sued/sued_02.jpg http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/fotos/stadionguides/deutschland/signal_iduna_park/sued/s%2525C3%2525BCdtrib%2525C3%2525BCne_02.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t%3D661500%26page%3D292&h=336&w=570&tbnid=H9wDMtG7n-9TuM:&zoom=1&docid=fiAc11768JzNkM&ei=pTx3VaDPEqWQ7AaxhIDICQ&tbm=isch&ved=0CCYQMygHMAc Edited June 9, 2015 by iainmac1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsparky Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Looks like you could get two rows of standing for each row of seats. Therefore double the capacity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Looks like you could get two rows of standing for each row of seats. Therefore double the capacity... No, guy on sky says it take up the same space as per having a seat in place, so capacity not effected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I just don't get standing, especially if it doesn't increase capacity, just a gimmick for hipsters that want to stick those shitty ultras stickers everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I just don't get standing, especially if it doesn't increase capacity, just a gimmick for hipsters that want to stick those shitty ultras stickers everywhere. Because a lot of fans prefer it. I don't mind sitting at some club games but for all Scotland games, the energy and adrenaline makes you want to stand. The atmosphere is also far more muted and stifled in seated areas IMO. Each to their own but it would be good to have the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At U Peter Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I just don't get standing, especially if it doesn't increase capacity, just a gimmick for hipsters that want to stick those shitty ultras stickers everywhere. It's never been about increasing the capacity. It's about having an area where people can go and stand to support the team. Safe and without blocking the view of those who'd rather sit down. Pretty straight forward I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Great news. Hopefully it is introduced all over including Hampden I agree, only ever sit at half time anyway and at least then if yer next te a cockbag ye can move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
At U Peter Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I agree, only ever sit at half time anyway and at least then if yer next te a cockbag ye can move. You wouldn't be able to move any more than you could at the moment. It's still a designated area that you are given a ticket for, it won't be like the old days when you could move anywhere you liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 It was on Reporting Scotland at 6.45pm . It's an allocated seat/place like now but the seats are unlocked and folded down into a seat for certain, permitted standing games then unlocked and folded down again as a seat for the others. The seat in front has a small barrier to lean on for the standing games. Looked brilliantly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm all for Safe standing. But, Silly question perhaps? See when it's a seat, will the rail to lean on when you're standing not be right at eye level when you're sitting? We basically have safe standing anyway, at least this way, it can seperate those who would prefer to sit, to avoid any problems with folk standing. (Those awkward ones where you've got a kid or small person behind you, but everyone else is standing for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usainboltyarocket Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Hopefully this will be a start of more stadiums becoming more atmospheric. Would guess most clubs would like to have safe standing areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Surley in Dortmund it was the seats with the rails on the back when we were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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