Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/politics/scottish-politics/snp-hope-to-coax-business-start-ups-with-radical-tax-incentive-scheme.1434443723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 #SNPBad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 #SNPBad Sometimes the SNP are bad. The blinkered defence of their every action on this message board is pretty sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sometimes the SNP are bad. The blinkered defence of their every action on this message board is pretty sad. Indeed. Id have thought the idea is to fight the Tories, not create an uber version of them that can't be questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sometimes the SNP are bad. The blinkered defence of their every action on this message board is pretty sad. And here we have the worst offender: "The SNP can't be judged until Scotland is independent" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 And here we have the worst offender: "The SNP can't be judged until Scotland is independent" :lol: What if the SNP dont succeed in getting these mystical powers ? How did John Swinney "signal his intentions" ? Do you see where i'm going here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 What if the SNP dont succeed in getting these mystical powers ? How did John Swinney "signal his intentions" ? Do you see where i'm going here ? Whether they get the powers or not the intention and priorities are clear It's very clear how he signaled his intentions, there are quotes supporting the article and the SNP have never been shy about where their priorities lie. It's just some seem to take stock in the lie that these corporate measures will benefit the public and decrease inequality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Genuine question, not having a pop at anyone's views. How do we attract private business to Scotland that provide skilled better paid jobs as opposed to the current situation where most towns non public sector work is provided by supermarkets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Genuine question, not having a pop at anyone's views. How do we attract private business to Scotland that provide skilled better paid jobs as opposed to the current situation where most towns non public sector work is provided by supermarkets. Business Bad, Bosses Bad, SNP Bad. Katy Clark Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Business Bad, Bosses Bad, SNP Bad. Katy Clark Good. You're being silly now. However, I'd agree that any government that puts corporate needs before the public purse is bad, yes. AllyBongo's argument is just bizarre for an independence supporter, effectively that the SNP are safe as long as they are on the Westminster leash and not granted the powers they seek... Unless he's backing their economic plan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Genuine question, not having a pop at anyone's views. How do we attract private business to Scotland that provide skilled better paid jobs as opposed to the current situation where most towns non public sector work is provided by supermarkets. You follow the Chinese model. ALL monopolies are brought under public ownership while the private sector is free to compete over the rest. Employment in the private sector is fully regulated by the government. China has the fastest growing private sector in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sometimes the SNP are bad. The blinkered defence of their every action on this message board is pretty sad. When you see the name 'Magnus Gardham' anywhere near a newspaper article it's usually a pretty safe bet that that'll be the gist of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You follow the Chinese model. ALL monopolies are brought under public ownership while the private sector is free to compete over the rest. Employment in the private sector is fully regulated by the government. China has the fastest growing private sector in the world. You are using China as a positive example of how a government should run a country? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) You are using China as a positive example of how a government should run a country? Seriously?You're using a capitalist Westernised view to judge a socialist country? Seriously? China had a 84% poverty rate 20 years ago, it's now 10%, 6% less than Scotland, 15% less than the UK. Edited June 17, 2015 by Scunnered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) AllyBongo's argument is just bizarre for an independence supporter, effectively that the SNP are safe as long as they are on the Westminster leash and not granted the powers they seek... Unless he's backing their economic plan . Nope Id prefer to beat someone with a stick after they have committed the crime You on the other hand .................... Edited June 17, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Nope Id prefer to beat someone with a stick after they have committed the crime You on the other hand .................... I'd prefer the crime not to be committed... Call me a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'd prefer the crime not to be committed... Call me a You have absolutely no guarantee that it would be Only supposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) I cant access the full article as im not subscribed to the Herald & have read 3 articles recently Can someone copy it in full and then i'll take the matter up on twitter if possible Edited June 17, 2015 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 You have absolutely no guarantee that it would be Only supposition True. However your supposition that an unashamedly pro capital party wouldn't put capital before people is far more dangerous! In my humble opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 True. However your supposition that an unashamedly pro capital party wouldn't put capital before people is far more dangerous! In my humble opinion. Everyone is innocent until they are proven guilty Why would the SNP jeopardize being outed as imposters, losing their 100K+ members AND being voted out of power by doing what you imply ? Labour and Katy Clark doing these things are a lesson from history that the SNP will not repeat Thats not to say they wont have some pro business policies but they will invest in public services at the same time - That is what they want to do (as they have said ad nauseum) but they need either FFA or Independence to achieve it Under Westminster purse strings with limited (and not full) powers they are robbing peter to pay paul with a finger in the dyke at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You're using a capitalist Westernised view to judge a socialist country? Seriously? China had a 84% poverty rate 20 years ago, it's now 10%, 6% less than Scotland, 15% less than the UK. I usually keep out of these... But China has lower poverty than the UK ? Seriously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Everyone is innocent until they are proven guilty Why would the SNP jeopardize being outed as imposters, losing their 100K+ members AND being voted out of power by doing what you imply ? Labour and Katy Clark doing these things are a lesson from history that the SNP will not repeat Thats not to say they wont have some pro business policies but they will invest in public services at the same time - That is what they want to do (as they have said ad nauseum) but they need either FFA or Independence to achieve it Under Westminster purse strings with limited (and not full) powers they are robbing peter to pay paul with a finger in the dyke at the same time Why would the SNP jeopardise it? . Quite simply the membership doesn't appear to care. Any wrong doing can be simply explained away by saying "SNPBad" or "LOOK, LOOK WHAT LABOUR DONE!!!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 I usually keep out of these... But China has lower poverty than the UK ? Seriously ? Absolutely serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Absolutely serious. References ? (I just don't believe that can be true) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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