Och Aye Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Almost a year on and at last I met one. A No voter who has changed his mind. Says he would definitely be Yes now. When I told him he was the 1st he says "oh no there is a lot of people in my workplace who are now of the same opinion" - large insurance company in Glasgow. Pretty encouraging I suppose but frustrating all the same. Negativity about Alex Salmond being the recurring theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I ken a No now Yes voter too. We tried everything to shift him yet now says he would vote yes, as ''they've not gave us any new powers''. Frustrating as hell, but at least he's on board for the next one. 100% yes he says now. Och well. Does anyone know anyone gone the other way - Yes to No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Almost a year on and at last I met one. A No voter who has changed his mind. Says he would definitely be Yes now. When I told him he was the 1st he says "oh no there is a lot of people in my workplace who are now of the same opinion" - large insurance company in Glasgow. Pretty encouraging I suppose but frustrating all the same. Negativity about Alex Salmond being the recurring theme. Ashamed to say it but my Uncle and Aunt voted no but now admit to me they should've voted yes. It makes it all the more frustrating hearing all the "I should've did this instead" lines being trotted out. Edited September 1, 2015 by Ormond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 A couple o ma mates now say they should have voted yes but to me it's easy to say it now they bottled it at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) People are seeing that the promises given out by the No campaign if we stayed put were hollow and are now not materialising at the same time as seeing the warnings of what would happen if we remained in this corrupt Union that were given out by the Yes campaign are now very much materialising. Simple really and it's easy for folks to say "I should've voted Yes" with 20/20 hindsight. I hate to say "We told you so" but we told you so. Let's welcome them on board though for the next time - they really are key to our future victory. Edited September 1, 2015 by DaveyDenoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasMc1973 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 New sign for the border: Scotland: Should've, Could've, Would've.....Bottling it since 1707 anyone still not talking to no voting folk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz1982 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Does anyone know anyone gone the other way - Yes to No? Think this is what will give the next YES vote a great advantage next time around. Surely a very high percentage of people who voted YES will vote that way again, I'm thinking 90%+ On the other hand, I think a lower percentage of no voters will vote that way again, maybe 60-70% Not sure how those numbers would add up, but that togethher with the changing demographics should be enough to clinch a YES vote. Only question is when we have another referendum? I'm terrified of going again too early and losing but part of me thinks we have to strike whilst the iron is hot, maybe within the next 3 years. Edited September 1, 2015 by Daz1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virus-with-shoes Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 anyone still not talking to no voting folk? You'll have to talk to them Im afraid - or the next vote will be a No as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I know folk who voted No who say they would vote Yes next time... I also know folk who voted Yes who say they would vote No next time. From my own little bubble I'd say that if the vote was tomorrow the result would be pretty much identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasMc1973 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 You'll have to talk to them Im afraid - or the next vote will be a No as well.... I never stopped, just remember a lot of chest beating on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Surely a very high percentage of people who voted YES will vote that way again, I'm thinking 90%+ On the other hand, I think a lower percentage of no voters will vote that way again, maybe 60-70% Not sure how those numbers would add up That would make it 57% Yes. Although we only need 9.6% of No voters to go Yes to win - if every No voter (25% of No voters, as per Ashcroft Poll) who voted No because they thought new powers were coming, then we'd win with 52%. Also, there would've been people who voted no, as they didn't like Alex Salmond. They might be more likely to go Yes now. However, if there was a referendum tomorrow - I don't think we'd get more than 48%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I know folk who voted No who say they would vote Yes next time... I also know folk who voted Yes who say they would vote No next time. From my own little bubble I'd say that if the vote was tomorrow the result would be pretty much identical. Why are you classing yourself as someone you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Why are you classing yourself as someone you know? I'm kind of a big deal And change that signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Almost a year on and at last I met one. A No voter who has changed his mind. Says he would definitely be Yes now. When I told him he was the 1st he says "oh no there is a lot of people in my workplace who are now of the same opinion" - large insurance company in Glasgow. Pretty encouraging I suppose but frustrating all the same. Negativity about Alex Salmond being the recurring theme. Maybe this is harsh but I think Salmond did nearly as much harm to the cause of independence as he did good. I know of two people who voted No who have openly admitted they regret it. One is a work colleague whose main objection to independence (as far as I could tell) was that Salmond iss a 'wee fat Napoleon'. I suspect he also bought into a lot of what he was told by the unionists, as he has since come to me since and said that he feels conned (I suspect his opinion of Salmond remains the same though, but that's fair enough). The other is an elderly relative who didn't 'trust Salmond with my pension' (even though she was an ex-NHS Scotland employee whose pension was already in Salmond's nefarious grasp). Again, I think she swallowed a lot of the propaganda but after seeing some of the things that have gone on politically since the vote she now regrets it. As for people who moved from Yes to No, another guy I know - who seemed such a cast iron No that I stopped even trying to engage him on the subject of independence - admitted a few months after the vote that he had voted Yes (after being browbeaten by his Mrs for months) but apparently 'instantly regretted it'. He didn't explicitly say he'd vote No in another referendum but I suspect it might take a lot more than just browbeating to get him to vote the same way next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm kind of a big deal And change that signature She probably thought she was sorting out someone's DLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Also, there would've been people who voted no, as they didn't like Alex Salmond. They might be more likely to go Yes now. More likely to find another flimsy excuse if you ask me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 More likely to find another flimsy excuse if you ask me... Exactly. Who can take someone seriously who decides the future of their country on "a wee fat man"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Most of those who've went from Yes to No will probably be disgruntled 'socialists' of the Judean Peoples Front variety and of course those ever untrustworthy hippies. SNP/SNP at next years elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Most of those who've went from Yes to No will probably be disgruntled 'socialists' of the Judean Peoples Front variety and of course those ever untrustworthy hippies. SNP/SNP at next years elections. Feckin' splitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Any independence supporter who thinks voting Green in next years poll will bring the goal closer is kidding themselves. Patrick Harvie did a great job during the referendum campaign but I wonder how many in his party share his enthusiasm for independence. Would be a proper boot in the haw maws to vote in Green list member who is hostile to independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Any independence supporter who thinks voting Green in next years poll will bring the goal closer is kidding themselves. Patrick Harvie did a great job during the referendum campaign but I wonder how many in his party share his enthusiasm for independence. Would be a proper boot in the haw maws to vote in Green list member who is hostile to independence. One could say the same for the SNP given they have no intention of holding another referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 One could say the same for the SNP given they have no intention of holding another referendum until they can just about guarantee a yes vote Fixed that for you fishy Anyway - back to the point It is really easy for someone who voted No to say they wish they had voted Yes when in the company of a Yes voter The question is would they really vote Yes the next time ? Probably not is your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Fixed that for you fishy Ridding ourselves of an SNP majority would go a long towards that in my humblest of opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Wings Over Scotland had a poll post referendum that showed people had moved from No to Yes and from Yes to No. Not massive numbers. More had gone from No to Yes but not enough to have Yes in the lead. Had a search but can't seem to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Any independence supporter who thinks voting Green in next years poll will bring the goal closer is kidding themselves. Patrick Harvie did a great job during the referendum campaign but I wonder how many in his party share his enthusiasm for independence. Would be a proper boot in the haw maws to vote in Green list member who is hostile to independence. I have to respectfully disagree with you there. The more pro-independence parties and pro-independence MSPs there are at Holyrood the more it dissolves the notion that independence and the SNP are one and the same. That can only be good for the overall movement. Although independence isn't the main focus of their movement the Greens do seem quite tight on the issue now. I know previously they have had people like the anti-independence Robin Harper elected to Holyrood and the inde-sceptic Martin Bartos stand for them at both Holyrood and Westminster, but they are out of the picture now. Fixed that for you fishy Anyway - back to the point It is really easy for someone who voted No to say they wish they had voted Yes when in the company of a Yes voter The question is would they really vote Yes the next time ? Probably not is your answer I am not sure about that, Ally. Most 'out' No voters I know seem quite comfortable in expressing their view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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