slasher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Didn't take long for the Tims to blame Aberdeen for their team being pure feckin honkin' in Europe No ones blaming Aberdeen for anything. Their fans are all over this taking the piss as I would expect but they don't like it when someone bites back so get off your high horse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Because they have, on a whole, been dreadful. That may be true but are you seriously suggesting that their colour has anything to do with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 For example lets say it was suggested that 50% of prize money from Europe (and internationals if that applies) went into a central pot to fund an explosion of quality 3/4G pitches across the country you'd find the clubs who regularly qualify for Europe would be against that - only a theoretical example but its that sort of thinking which could help produce more players of a higher standard. I seriously doubt any Scottish club are making any money from Europe other than Celtic and it will be interesting to see how much if anything from this campaign. Sorry to piss all over your idea but its not a very good one is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Is that true that Ronny's Europa League record is P9 W0 D4 L5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 For example lets say it was suggested that 50% of prize money from Europe (and internationals if that applies) went into a central pot to fund an explosion of quality 3/4G pitches across the country you'd find the clubs who regularly qualify for Europe would be against that - only a theoretical example but its that sort of thinking which could help produce more players of a higher standard. I seriously doubt any Scottish club are making any money from Europe other than Celtic and it will be interesting to see how much if anything from this campaign. Sorry to piss all over your idea but its not a very good one is it? Aye you're right. Providing good quality facilities to develop young players on is a rotten idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 If celtics white forwards scored more than their black defenders conceded they wouldn't be so shite in europe. and maybe if their club didn't stiffle domestic competition it might help them prepare for the harder games. always good to see them beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 That may be true but are you seriously suggesting that their colour has anything to do with that? Mibbe Macy is Ron Atkinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Aye you're right. Providing good quality facilities to develop young players on is a rotten idea. Apart from the fact you're basically asking for one or two clubs to pay for it facilities aren't even the main problem. An academy based system that doesn't work, lack of school football, council charges, lack of good coaching and a senior set up that puts TV money first are all at least as big a problem. I don't know about your area but there are loads of 3g/4g pitches round here but to let them aint cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Mibbe Macy is Ron Atkinson. He seems to overlook the fact that pasty faced Lustig has been utter gash all season as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Utter pish tonight. Only bright spot being tierney. Boy is class. Has been good every game He has played this season. Good at defending aswell as going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Apart from the fact you're basically asking for one or two clubs to pay for it facilities aren't even the main problem. An academy based system that doesn't work, lack of school football, council charges, lack of good coaching and a senior set up that puts TV money first are all at least as big a problem. I don't know about your area but there are loads of 3g/4g pitches round here but to let them aint cheap! £38 for 1/4 pitch for 1hr round my way. £120 to hire the full pitch for a game. They do a Football Partnership whereby you can hire a full pitch for £40.....but only at the weekend. I was running a team a couple of years back and had to pay the full £120 for a midweek game. So in effect if a club wants to train twice a week they are £140 (including ref) down before they have even thought about strips, training gear, balls, water bottles etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Is that true that Ronny's Europa League record is P9 W0 D4 L5? No because last season we qualified for the last 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No because last season we qualified for the last 32. I didn't think it could be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 £38 for 1/4 pitch for 1hr round my way. £120 to hire the full pitch for a game. They do a Football Partnership whereby you can hire a full pitch for £40.....but only at the weekend. I was running a team a couple of years back and had to pay the full £120 for a midweek game. So in effect if a club wants to train twice a week they are £140 (including ref) down before they have even thought about strips, training gear, balls, water bottles etc. That's not sustainable in many areas especially some of the poorer ones. It has to be subsidised from somewhere but the pressure on government budgets local and national is enormous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 That's not sustainable in many areas especially some of the poorer ones. It has to be subsidised from somewhere but the pressure on government budgets local and national is enormous. Tell me about it mate, I work for the ers. The cuts just keep on increasing every year. The team I ran was always just treading water. And that was with a £500 cash injection twice a year by a local publican. You got the odd training course but to go and do proper courses such as D license and the likes costs a ridiculous amount of money and you also need to take a week off work. Have to say the club academy Scotland, that's affiliated to the clubs is a very positive step on the whole. Laddies are well organised and disciplined and the majority of them are encouraged to play a passing game. Not actually sure what involvement the Government has on that, if any. I think it's all done through the SFA with the clubs themselves obviously contributing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 Molde at 9/2 has paid my weekend in Manchester for Stone Roses. Mental price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No because last season we qualified for the last 32. Apparently it's the record for the last 9 games in the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Gas Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He's shocking. 8 wins in Europe, 4 of them against Icelandic teams in the CL diddy rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 That may be true but are you seriously suggesting that their colour has anything to do with that? No, I'm suggesting the black players have been dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No, I'm suggesting the black players have been dreadful.VVD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 VVD? Best of a bad bunch although many on here would say he was beyond bad too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 McInnes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabmania Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 No, I'm suggesting the black players have been dreadful. and the non-black players? The non-black manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The clubs are not interested in working together to improve the quality. Scottish football is riddled from top to bottom with self interest. No real easy solutions but until there is a concerted effort from all involved we'll keep going round in circles and see clubs in our league lose to sides which most would think they shouldn't. Ditto the national side. I don't buy the theory that we can't improve significantly either as there are plenty of examples of countries doing just that and punching above what we'd consider to be their weight. Exactly right. If the Scottish league was a competition rather than a procession our teams might be ready for Europe. But then Celtic like winning the league by 20 points every year, and the rest like playing Celtic four times so nothing will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Money spent on absolute shite yet we are way ahead of the rest at home. That is the truly embarrassing bit. We are dreadful yet look at the rest. Surely this season we would get a challenge while we have this crap on show. Well, Dundee Utd's best players were sitting unused on the bench. Hibs best player wasn't even stripped. If you want that to change you need to change the rules - salary cap, max squad size, more equitable sharing of money, whatever you can think of. But I still don't think you actually want a competitive league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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