Rossy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Anyone watching this ? Fantastic to see a programme highlighting the positive side of what looks like an amazing hospital. One of the best in the world. And what brilliant, brilliant people work there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA Sunshine Appeal Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 We visited in July. Fantastic place with fantastic staff. http://www.tasunshineappeal.co.uk/2015/07/chemo-ducks-for-yorkhill/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 No, I'm watching Hugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lunger Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Eight hours without being seen ! Not what I'd call brilliant. http://www.scotsman.com/news/review-into-patient-death-at-glasgow-super-hospital-1-3939687#axzz3r4z4k725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Eight hours without being seen ! Not what I'd call brilliant. http://www.scotsman.com/news/review-into-patient-death-at-glasgow-super-hospital-1-3939687#axzz3r4z4k725 Or waiting nine days for newborn Granddaughter to have urgent operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In that case we should probably knock it down. #snpbad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Aye surley its been a disaster since its been open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think the nationalist automated obfuscate rebuttal machine is broken again, it's chucking out non-sequiturs. Maybe the turning back on of the swear filter has affected it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I never said it was a miracle. I said that the programme (quite rightly) highlighted the many positive aspects, and that the people who work there...as in all hospitals...generally do a brilliant job under often difficult circumstances. There are improvements to be made, that goes without saying, but ferfuxsake, maybe some people could try and look on the positive side. Edited November 10, 2015 by Rossy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Eight hours without being seen ! Now, if you'd actually read all of that article you would already know that that just isn't true. If you are like most other folk and just read the headline and the first few lines after it, then that might explain your ignorance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think the nationalist automated obfuscate rebuttal machine is broken again, it's chucking out non-sequiturs. Maybe the turning back on of the swear filter has affected it? I'm not sure that waiting times in hospitals are affected that much by nationalism? Could be wrong though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think they should have left 1 other hospital open for a year or so to see how it went.And they could have took some of the pressure off at busy times. Perhaps they could still build another small hospital with A&E facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Aren't most major new hospitals prone to teething problems? It's a while ago now but Crosshouse Hospital was an absolulte nightmare for a while after Kilmarnock Infirmary shut. Saw the programme last night and thought it was very well made, although I find it tough seeing really sick kids. I will watch the first one on the iPlayer soon. Edited November 10, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Any new opening of any new thing is prone to teething problems FFS. As for the poor guy who died waiting, that seems more like human error than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lunger Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Now, if you'd actually read all of that article you would already know that that just isn't true. If you are like most other folk and just read the headline and the first few lines after it, then that might explain your ignorance? Oops, you're right it was only a six hour wait. I withdraw my previous comment. All is brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Oops, you're right it was only a six hour wait. I withdraw my previous comment. All is brilliant. I'm guessing that you still haven't read all the way to the end of the article. Either that or you are just deliberately trying to mislead folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm not sure that waiting times in hospitals are affected that much by nationalism? Could be wrong though? I have no idea why you're asking me if you're sure or not about the proposition "nationalism affects waiting times",why you're wondering that in the first place, or why you think i can tell you if you're wrong in this context. I suspect a misunderstanding of my post, however my curiosity is far outweighed by my apathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) What is wrong about claiming a six hour wait on a trolley in a corridor? I've read the article several times now, perhaps citing what it says as opposed to just saying "nope you're wrong" might be a more fruitful way to discover the truth rather than surmising on folks motives? "The patient who sadly passed away in the early hours of Tuesday morning after a six-hour wait had an initial assessment by a member of nursing staff on arrival at the immediate assessment unit (IAU) at the hospital." "A newspaper reported that an elderly man died on a trolley at the flagship Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow after waiting eight hours for treatment earlier this week." Two claims one by a newspaper and one by the spokesperson. Edited November 10, 2015 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Looking back, i think this will hinge on what people regard as "seen" meaning in the original context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lunger Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Looking back, i think this will hinge on what people regard as "seen" meaning in the original context. On reflection "treatment" would have been a better word than "seen". However, my experience of hospitals is that you are usually given an "initial assessment", i.e. seen, pretty quickly, this does not equate to being treated in my opinion. Edited November 10, 2015 by the lunger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It's an impressive building but speaking to friends in the medical profession the private room policy baffles them. It was touched on the program as they hadn't taken into account the turnaround time between patients increasing hence delays getting people in. Private rooms sounds great but I think on a practical basis is difficult to justify. Moving into a new building is going to have some teething issues. It could be 99% successful and any issue will be blown out of all proportion as it's the NHS. One the other side you have the NHS taken as some kind of cult like status where it can do no wrong. I'm sure people who get treatment in Netherlands, USA and Australia sing the praises of their respective systems. Wife was in there last September '14 and August this year. Like all places there are good staff, there are stars who should be awarded knighthoods and carried through the streets on the shoulders of others and there are poor staff who are staggering in their bad attitude and arrogance. (On a side note according to IFS between 2009/10 and 2015/16 the planned spend on health will fall by 1.2% in Scotland, and rise by 4.4% in England....)​ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 It was only a feckin TV programme. It pointed out some good, some bad. The nurses looking after the sick kids came across as doing a brilliant job. Hope that keeps everyone happy. Open up another thread for 'gripes I read in the paper'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popkean1314foreva Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Will have to catch it on iplayer as my cousin is in it , she`s one of the ward sisters` or whatever they are called nowadays . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serbo69 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I've been up and down to it for the previous few months. The building is stunning and the facilities are great however (for everyone under 70, free wifi etc...) it is very obvious that there isn't enough staff due to the single room policy. The staff are stressed out their box and cannot do it all. They really need to re-think the single room policy or somehow get more staff from somewhere. One other issue is the loneliness for long term patients. My Dad has been in for some lengthy spells in the previous Southern but on this occasion he was certainly more lonely and got quite down. I'm not 100% saying this was due to the single room but being able to talk to someone certainly helped his previous stays. The staff just don't have the time to stop for a chat..... My final point is that the staff that are there are all amazing. Really can't remember meeting an arrogant or uncaring staff member yet. A credit to the NHS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It was only a feckin TV programme. It pointed out some good, some bad. The nurses looking after the sick kids came across as doing a brilliant job. Hope that keeps everyone happy. Open up another thread for 'gripes I read in the paper'. Good point. I just don't like the way the media deliberately distort the facts to try and make the NHS look worse than it is. It's obviously not perfect, by a long way, but it's not nearly as bad as the media would like us to think, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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