jimstroma Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Avery did not come across very bright. I certainly don't believe he could have cleaned all the blood from the scene. The brother was 100% certain it was Avery, which looked very suspicious. Too many unanswered questions for me, would expect riots across America if Avery was Black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Big story breaking today over here with regards to his case. All across our news. His new lawyer Kathleen Zellner has come out last night with a sensational tweet that phone records are now proving that he has an 'airtight alibi'. This new lawyer has an office about 5 minutes from my house. She specialises in wrongful convictions and is regularly rated amongst the best in the land. Her Twitter feed is very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 9 hours ago, Ormond said: Big story breaking today over here with regards to his case. All across our news. His new lawyer Kathleen Zellner has come out last night with a sensational tweet that phone records are now proving that he has an 'airtight alibi'. This new lawyer has an office about 5 minutes from my house. She specialises in wrongful convictions and is regularly rated amongst the best in the land. Her Twitter feed is very interesting. Well don't piss about posting on the TAMB then, go and chap her door and see if you can find out what's happening!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 interesting development, supports the theory of Police finding her dead in car then setting up Avery. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Thing is about this new mobile phone evidence is that the prosecution could argue that Steven is the one carrying that phone. I guess at best is put the original arguments into doubt, but doesn't make Steven innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Brummie Hibs said: Thing is about this new mobile phone evidence is that the prosecution could argue that Steven is the one carrying that phone. I guess at best is put the original arguments into doubt, but doesn't make Steven innocent. I thought as well but I'd assume she has a bit more to go on than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, Brummie Hibs said: Thing is about this new mobile phone evidence is that the prosecution could argue that Steven is the one carrying that phone. I guess at best is put the original arguments into doubt, but doesn't make Steven innocent. But, what she could argue is that why would he take the body away miles from his property only to return to try to burn it back there again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 She's putting out a lot of "teasers" on Twitter over the past month or so. Loads of references/hastags re "science" which is suggesting she has got more than just the cell tower argument to back up his appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanH Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Surely just means Averys phone didn't 'move' that day. I'm maybe getting on a bit when it comes to social media but whilst Zellner is no doubt a good lawyer going by her record why would a decent lawyer be tweeting out comments and possible defence motions? For what it's worth I still think Averys did it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlanH said: Surely just means Averys phone didn't 'move' that day. I'm maybe getting on a bit when it comes to social media but whilst Zellner is no doubt a good lawyer going by her record why would a decent lawyer be tweeting out comments and possible defence motions? For what it's worth I still think Averys did it! I think its more the idea that Halbachs phone did "move" away from the salvage yard after she was supposedly murdered there. Maybe Avery did leave his phone home, maybe her phone away to suggest that she was using it after she left his.....but why leave her body there and burn it outside his front door. No point "cleaning up" the phone side of it while leaving her actual bones in his front garden. There is also a suggestion that people weren't as aware of the capabilities of GPS tracking of phones back then, especially not the sort who would then think it was okay to burn a body on their front lawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McExpat Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 18 hours ago, AlanH said: I'm maybe getting on a bit when it comes to social media but whilst Zellner is no doubt a good lawyer going by her record why would a decent lawyer be tweeting out comments and possible defence motions? For what it's worth I still think Averys did it! because she's American living in America! I'm certain he didn't do it and this recent development only adds to my beliefs. The chain of events just doesn't stack up to him being guilty. A number of weeks on from watching I'm still haunted in particular by what those officers did to the younger, severely mentally challenged Avery. They had no qualms manipulating him to get false evidence to be used against his uncle, whilst knowing he would then go on to spend most of his life in prison, if he were to survive in being incarcerated. Surely to act in such a manner you would have to be a psychopath. Additionally haunting is the thought of how many psychopaths are in law enforcement worldwide and the harm they must do on a daily basis. Sad and concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauniscots Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Brendan Dassey's conviction has been overturned and he is set to be released. Steven Avery next hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, hauniscots said: Brendan Dassey's conviction has been overturned and he is set to be released. Steven Avery next hopefully. Great news. Absolutely great news. For a young laddie with severe learning difficulties to be stitched up like that was disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I hope Brendan sues the police department for this now. Avery's conviction was heavily influenced by Dassey's testimony so surely if the latter gets acquitted, so too should the former. I saw some comments on American media highlighting how wonderful the constitution is which enables convictions to be quashed like this, whilst ignoring the ludicrous legal process which wrongfully stuck him in there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 5 hours ago, thewolf_1980 said: I hope Brendan sues the police department for this now. Worked well the last time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 6 hours ago, thewelk said: Worked well the last time! Was going to post the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 On 13/08/2016 at 3:37 PM, thewelk said: Worked well the last time! On 13/08/2016 at 10:29 PM, sbcmfc said: Was going to post the same sentence. I give him a year before he's back inside for something he didn't do with all the evidence pointing to him turning up in places there previously was no evidence Joking aside I'm delighted for him, he obviously has some learning difficulties and is very easily led. Hopefully his time inside and the whole horrible experience will have matured him, he will no doubt have a lot to contend with on the outside in respect of the media and even his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mazziessc said: I give him a year before he's back inside for something he didn't do with all the evidence pointing to him turning up in places there previously was no evidence Joking aside I'm delighted for him, he obviously has some learning difficulties and is very easily led. Hopefully his time inside and the whole horrible experience will have matured him, he will no doubt have a lot to contend with on the outside in respect of the media and even his family. He'll be able to watch that Wrestlemania he got his mum to record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 20 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: He'll be able to watch that Wrestlemania he got his mum to record. You bad man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, OLAS said: You bad man Kidding aside, I think comments like that from him showed how/why he was exploited by the police. The boy had no idea. He was asking if he'd be back to school to hand in an assignment that afternoon minutes after "confessing" to his part in the rape and murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 39 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: He'll be able to watch that Wrestlemania he got his mum to record. She will have cleared her sky plus by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: Kidding aside, I think comments like that from him showed how/why he was exploited by the police. The boy had no idea. He was asking if he'd be back to school to hand in an assignment that afternoon minutes after "confessing" to his part in the rape and murder. I think you're correct. He appeared to have no idea what was going on. He basically confessed to murder so he could get a can of 7Up and get home for Wrestlemania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Appeals court has just blocked Brendan dasseys release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, 86glebestreet said: Appeals court has just blocked Brendan dasseys release Shower of cvnts. Edited November 18, 2016 by Ormond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Only been watching this recently If there is presumption he is innocent - then think was Ex Boyfriend Couldn't believe DA presented evidence of "Dassey" confession when none of this was presented in Avery case. Lot of the evidence does not sack up America is screwed up though - could still have been Avery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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