Flora MaDonald Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Believe me, families can hold a variety of political opinions... Not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Believe me, families can hold a variety of political opinions... your secret is safe with me Mr Poke..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Now imagine if a British company decides to label its products "Made in EU"and remove the UJ because UK/UJ are not so popular in certain export markets. The 'made in Britain' brand isn't really popular is any market though, except England and Wales and even then I'm not too sure. I might have already posted this but in France at least the Scottish brand is good. Salmon..whisky..shortbread. British - mad cow disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I seem to recall during the BSE crisis, the French said they would buy Scottish beef, but not British (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtownards Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 What the fuq are you shopping in M&S for?! They were on the list of places none of us should be shopping in; am I the only one still refusing to shop in the likes of M&S, ASDA, John Lewis, Waitrose and B&Q (?) Marks and Sparks do great meal for two offers..... Outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Marks and Sparks do great meal for two offers..... Outstanding. Very true :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Surely there is something very stupid in displaying a lion rampant but believing in being controlled by London? How can the two go together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Usually on the coat of arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Usually on the coat of arms.Yes and that's a strange one also. The standard of Robert The Bruce who fought for anything but London rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If a company takes a political stance then it's fair game if and when people stop buying their products or shopping in their stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I might have already posted this but in France at least the Scottish brand is good. Salmon..whisky..shortbread. British - mad cow disease. That's almost the exact opposite of the "Andy Murray effect" (British when he wins, Scottish when he loses). This could be a good marketing ploy? Any brand (like tunnocks) that is shyte we market as British, and the good stuff we market as Scottish. It might also help a wee bit to recover that "British identity" that some folk are worried about losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 That's almost the exact opposite of the "Andy Murray effect" (British when he wins, Scottish when he loses). This could be a good marketing ploy? Any brand (like tunnocks) that is shyte we market as British, and the good stuff we market as Scottish. It might also help a wee bit to recover that "British identity" that some folk are worried about losing. Keep up - I already more or less said that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Have to say I have never really thought of any biscuit/cake, bar probably shortbread, as being directly related to a nationality. Never once did I go into the supermarket and think "must pick up some Scottish Tunnocks Tea Cakes. Och Aye". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Surely there is something very stupid in displaying a lion rampant but believing in being controlled by London? How can the two go together? Ask Her Maj... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymac Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes and that's a strange one also. The standard of Robert The Bruce who fought for anything but London rule. Its almost as if you have no idea about history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Its almost as if you have no idea about history.Please enlighten me with your wisdom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Keep up - I already more or less said that Did you? I must have missed it. It was such a good point, that it was well worth saying it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes and that's a strange one also. The standard of Robert The Bruce who fought for anything but London rule. I think the Lion Rampant being used as the Royal Standard predates Bruce by about 100 years. Saying that, it's always been used as a monarchist symbol and the very pinnacle of our unfair class based society. A filthy, filthy flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I think the Lion Rampant being used as the Royal Standard predates Bruce by about 100 years. Saying that, it's always been used as a monarchist symbol and the very pinnacle of our unfair class based society. A filthy, filthy flag.Monarchy and London rule don't go hand in hand though as you've said. I'm certainly no fan of being a subject rather than a citizen. But times now are so much different than hundreds of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I absolutely agree, times have changed and this heinous symbol should be consigned to the past, especially politically. There was an anti austerity demonstration in Georges Square a couple of years back and a group of folk were flying rampant lions... Royal Standards!!! At an anti austerity demonstration!!! Should have been executed, every last one of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The Lion Rampant has been used by the Scottish Monarchy since it was Introduced by King William (The Lion)circa 1165- 1215. ( Born in Huntingdon, outside London, but that was controlled by Scottish Royalty and technically Scotland.... , before that it was a boar, an ancient Pictish Symbol. The Fluer De Lyons around the Lion represent the French as they (were meant to) protect the Scottish Monarchy due to the Auld Alliance. Technically it is illegal to fly the Lion Rampart if you are not the Queen, Scotland Fans used it a lot in the 60s and 70's before the Scottish Saltire became common. I always associate it with a Royalist Scot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Scottish royals being Earls of Huntingdon didn't make the place 'technically Scotland'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Scotland Fans used it a lot in the 60s and 70's before the Scottish Saltire became common. I always associate it with a Royalist Scot. 80s too. The flag seem to fall out of popularity when we stopped playing England regularly.I've still got a bit of affinity for the "big red dug", not for any royalist reasons, it just reminds me of the old days in section J under the huge floodlights... Edited January 9, 2016 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Scottish royals being Earls of Huntingdon didn't make the place 'technically Scotland'. aye, no really. but cant compare then to now. he could have played for the National Team..... under todays rules.. Edited January 9, 2016 by stocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 aye, no really. but cant compare then to now. he could have played for the National Team..... under todays rules.. Agreed: it didn't make Huntingdon technically Scotland but it did make William the Lion technically English... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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