Cove_Sheep Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Motherwell manager Mark McGhee believes had he not lost two playoff semi-finals - with Wolves in 1997 and with Millwall in 2002 - and won promotion to the English Premier League, he would be managing Liverpool now rather than the Steelmen. (Scottish Sun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Slightly...but he's not doing himself any favours with the fans that don't like him as he always seems to be whoring himself out I lost with Wolves in the same circumstances to Crystal Palace. These were chances to go into the Premier League and they were life-changing games. That is the reason and dont misinterpret me here why Im managing Motherwell and not Liverpool. If I had won promotion on either of these occasions the chances are thats the kind of place I would be. Thats the progression you need to make if you want to manage in the Premier League and I failed to make it so thats why I feel unfulfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I was starting to come round to him too. I'm sure that has been twisted slightly, but I think it kind of sums him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Mark McGhee in being an egotistical, delusional and disrespectful khunt shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Mark McGhee in being an egotistical, delusional and disrespectful khunt shocker. And even that's being polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Very much "if yer aunts had baws" anyway, he lost in the semi, not on a penalty shoot out in the final or anything like that. It wasn't bad luck, his teams weren't good enough to win automatic promotion or the play offs. He is a decent manager in my opinion, but my god, what an ego the guy has! If he could keep that arrogance to himself and just do the job I'd like him a lot more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Always thought he was a good fit for Aberdeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Always thought he was a good fit for Aberdeen Delusional with ideas above his station? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 He could've won the play offs, got no backing by the board, and been unemployed by Christmas too.... (See Billy Davies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 He could've won the play offs, got no backing by the board, and been unemployed by Christmas too.... (See Billy Davies) more spare time to rub plums with Tommy Sheridan I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geed Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I am a Motherwell fan and cant stick the guy at all, i havent been to many games at all over the last few years anyway as cant afford it anymore and keep my money now for Scotland home and away games but i wouldnt be going back until hes gone anyway, even thought the results we are getting are an improvment. i honestly cant take to the guy at all, so arrogant and always touting himself for bigger jobs and disrespecting the club and fans who are paying his wages, utter Twat!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky1606 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 When appointed Aberdeen manager he says he deserved the Celtic job but ended up at Aberdeen instead and it went downhill from there. He even said after losing to Celtic 9-0 "aye but they only get 3 points." He's nothing short of delusional. He never actually moved from Brighton and instead chose to fly up during the week for training and games. Straight after games on a Saturday he was on the next flight home with Scott Leitch doing a similar bolt to get away from Aberdeen as fast as possible which left Colin Meldrum (GK coach) to take the Sunday recovery sessions!! Heard a few rumours about him as well which sound typical of his attitude... one was he tries to get the Scotland players to call him "gaffer" as well as Strachan!! You really could see him trying to implement that one amongst the camp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I am a Motherwell fan and cant stick the guy at all, i havent been to many games at all over the last few years anyway as cant afford it anymore and keep my money now for Scotland home and away games but i wouldnt be going back until hes gone anyway, even thought the results we are getting are an improvment. i honestly cant take to the guy at all, so arrogant and always touting himself for bigger jobs and disrespecting the club and fans who are paying his wages, utter Twat!! So if we get to the scottish cup final you wont go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I guess the other side of that coin is - you didn't win though and that's why you are where you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So are the winning play off winning managers now managing Liverpool and the likes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 So are the winning play off winning managers now managing Liverpool and the likes? Don't think Klopp has ever won the play offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Had a look at who had won the play offs since 1997 when McGhee was 1st involved in the play offs, and there's little to suggest McGhee would be managing Liverpool or similar had he won. The general trend seems to be, go straight back down, at best get another season, don't bounce straight back, get sacked. Brendan Rodgers did manage Liverpool, but seems the exception to the rule..... 2015 Norwich City - Alex Neil - still in charge 2014 QPR - Harry Redknapp - "resigned" February 2015 -unemployed 2013 Crystal palace- Ian holloway - mutual consent - October 2013 -millwall 2012 West Ham - Sam allerdyce - sacked may 2015 - Sunderland 2011 Swansea - Brendan Rodgers left for Liverpool - unemployed 2010 Blackpool - Ian holloway again 2009 Burnley - Owen coyle - left for Bolton - Houston Dynamo 2008 hull - Phil brown - sacked march 2010 - Southend 2007 derby county - Billy Davies - sacked November 2007 - unemployed 2006 Watford - ady boothroyd - left November 2008 - England u20 2005 Alan Pardew - West Ham - sacked December 2006 - crystal palace 2004 Ian Dowie - crystal palace - sacked may 2006 -unemployed 2003 wolves - Davie Jones - sacked November 2004 - unemployed 2002 Birmingham City - Steve Bruce- left 2007 - hull city 2001 Bolton- Sam allerdyce- left 2007 Newcastle - Sunderland 2000 Ipswich - George Burley - sacked 2002 -unemployed 1999 Watford - graham Taylor - retired 2001 1998 Charlton Alan curbishley - left 2007 -unemployed 1997 crystal palace Steve coppell - moved upstairs 1998 -unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I am a Motherwell fan and cant stick the guy at all, i havent been to many games at all over the last few years anyway as cant afford it anymore and keep my money now for Scotland home and away games but i wouldnt be going back until hes gone anyway, even thought the results we are getting are an improvment. i honestly cant take to the guy at all, so arrogant and always touting himself for bigger jobs and disrespecting the club and fans who are paying his wages, utter Twat!! I'm from Hamilton and think you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 How do people not see how bad he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Question for the Motherwell fans is.. Would you prefer a manager who is a dislikable khunt but keeps you in the hunt for possible top six, etc, etc. or... a "Mr nice guy" who struggles to keep you up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 How do people not see how bad he is? I don't think he's a bad manager. He did a good job in his 1st spell at Motherwell and there's been a marked improvement this time. He had a poor time at Aberdeen, but had good spells with Wolves and Brighton too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Question for the Motherwell fans is.. Would you prefer a manager who is a dislikable khunt but keeps you in the hunt for possible top six, etc, etc. or... a "Mr nice guy" who struggles to keep you up? Barraclough was a nice guy, useless manager and ultimately we were glad to see the back of him. Mark McGhee has made us much better and even though he splits opinion as a person, as a manager, he's doing well, so most will overlook it. Probably would lead to less patience if things went wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Probably the dislikable khunt. End of the day I go to watch Motherwell not Mark McGhee or Barraclough so would put up with a khunt of a manager if it meant a bit of success haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a lovely guy. However if some of his obvious arrogance had rubbed off on some of the Scotland players and they'd taken a bit of swagger onto the pitch and channelled it correctly instead of shitting ourselves and lacking confidence in the closing stages of games we might've done slightly better? He clearly thinks he is better than he is, I wish some of our players did too. Edited January 16, 2016 by DaveyDenoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 In his 1st spell at Motherwell he made some good points on the psychology of things like playing away from home, and how it should be no different. I think he does try and instill confidence in his players that they can go to tynecastle and win (as an example). Shites all over the defeatist attitude that emanated from Stuart McCall at times. My only real gripe with him is the fact he's always flashing his knickers at other clubs, and gives off the impression that he feels managing Motherwell is beneath him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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