min Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 A demolition job on Nishikori there! Djokovic is back to his annoying best and relatively fresh. Murray is knackered. Can't see anything other than a straight sets win for Djokovic tomorrow, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, min said: A demolition job on Nishikori there! Djokovic is back to his annoying best and relatively fresh. Murray is knackered. Can't see anything other than a straight sets win for Djokovic tomorrow, unfortunately. Nah, not having that. Djokovic played well, no doubt. His best? Not even close. He never had to get close to it. An utterly pathetic performance from Nishikori. Up there with when Andy lost 6-1, 6-0 to Federer in the WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
min Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 23 minutes ago, Parklife said: Nah, not having that. Djokovic played well, no doubt. His best? Not even close. He never had to get close to it. An utterly pathetic performance from Nishikori. Up there with when Andy lost 6-1, 6-0 to Federer in the WTF. I hope you're right. When I said best, I was talking about the WTF as a whole. Four comprehensive wins against top eight opponents - the Dojokovic of the last few months would not have achieved that. He has his Mojo back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Top 8? He's played 1 top player. Raonic. Tonight was a joke. Theim and goffin? Not top players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure why the number one ranking is up for grabs. I thought djokovic was defending the points he won here last year by winning it and Andy had already gained a good few points by making the final as he didn't get out of the group last year. I know that the points gained are also determined by sets lost so maybe that's got something to do with it but it seems to me like djokovic can't gain any more points and Murray has already gained more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Lion Rampant said: Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure why the number one ranking is up for grabs. I thought djokovic was defending the points he won here last year by winning it and Andy had already gained a good few points by making the final as he didn't get out of the group last year. I know that the points gained are also determined by sets lost so maybe that's got something to do with it but it seems to me like djokovic can't gain any more points and Murray has already gained more. It's a week later this year so last year's points have already dropped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I don't buy into the theory that this is Djokovic back to his best until we see him fully tested. However, Murray must be absolutely physically spent after two marathon matches already at the WTF. Unless Murray can win the first set and crank up the demons in Djoko's head then I only see one winner given Andy's physical condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Murray looks knackered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Murray wins first set 6-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Murray looks knackered He looks the best I have ever seen him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Murray looks knackered Not surprised. He has been on court three hours longer than Djokovic and played on consecutive days unlike Novak. It is a fantastic effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ends the year as number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 oh dear some folk look right clowns on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Boynze said: oh dear some folk look right clowns on this thread. Who? All tennis pundits/experts felt Andy was going to toil physically to get the job done today but he put in a Herculean effort to get the job done and am delighted he has done it. He now looks set for a good fair few weeks at No 1 now possibly up to next summer at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) Fantastic. Winning that tournament, end of year number one, 25 wins on the spin, nine tournament wins this year and he beat the world number 2, 3, 4 & 5 this week. Edited November 20, 2016 by biffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Murray looks knackered Is there an echo - you said that on the other thread ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Who? All tennis pundits/experts felt Andy was going to toil physically to get the job done today but he put in a Herculean effort to get the job done and am delighted he has done it. He now looks set for a good fair few weeks at No 1 now possibly up to next summer at least. the clowns who stated he would lose with such certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
min Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Superb achievement and absolutely deserved! An unbelievable show of willpower and stamina and for once, some lucky breaks with the unforced errors. Delighted to be proven wrong today and look forward to an extended period with Andy at #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Just now, Boynze said: the clowns who stated he would lose with such certainty. I think everyone did purely on the fatigue front. I would have tipped him to win if he had come in as fresh as Novak. Andy played more than three hours more tennis than Novak at the WTF, had a tougher run og matches and a tougher schedule. Couple that with the fact that Murray has probably spent about a day's worth on court longer than Novak in the last month or so and everything looked to have fallen good for the Serb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Think this cements Murray as Scotlands greatest ever sportsman. Can't think of anyone who comes close to his achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, RenfrewBlue said: Think this cements Murray as Scotlands greatest ever sportsman. Can't think of anyone who comes close to his achievements. Off the top of my head the ones that come closest are Jackie Stewart, Sir Chris Hoy and perhaps boxer Ken Buchanan. I know Stephen Hendry dominated snooker in the 90s but it isn't really a global sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Think this cements Murray as Scotlands greatest ever sportsman. Can't think of anyone who comes close to his achievements. What? Not even John Greig???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: What? Not even John Greig???? Who is he? Owner of the chain of pasty shops with dyslexia? Edited November 20, 2016 by Caledonian Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, RenfrewBlue said: Think this cements Murray as Scotlands greatest ever sportsman. Can't think of anyone who comes close to his achievements. Couldn't agree more. Without doubt the greatest Scottish sportsman of all time and ever will be in all likelihood. An incredible year - Davis Cup end of last season (THE WORLD CUP), then Wimbledon again, then the Olympics again in an almighty struggle in the heat of Rio, then umpteen tournaments, and now World Champion and World Number One. And all in what must be the most phyysically tough sport of all (excluding the nutty multi triathlon type things). Any there any honours that Scotland can give Andy ??? He may well get a Knighthood from down south, but is there any honour just for Scotland? Whatever he gets it will all be so well deserved. Brilliant stuff Andy and also a superb achievement for Jamie too to be World Number One too!!!! A big honour due for him too surely AND one please for Judy without whom neither of the Murray Brothers would have done anything. Judy is wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Off the top of my head the ones that come closest are Jackie Stewart, Sir Chris Hoy and perhaps boxer Ken Buchanan. I know Stephen Hendry dominated snooker in the 90s but it isn't really a global sport. Off the top of my head, I'd put Andy ahead of Hoy because Hoy's is a very narrow specialist part of cycling whereas tennis is, like, a whole sport! Maybe Jackie S is up there, though only one part of motor sport, but he did win the main championship, what, three times? I don't know enough about boxing. What about Jocky Wilson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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