Cove_Sheep Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Discuss... If Ronaldo had done it, I think a lot of the folk praising Messi would be slaughtering him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 3-1 up at the time, its disrespectful in my opinion. At 0-0 it's ballsy. You're right in your comparison with Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Both IMO. Definitely clever but definitely a bit of a piss take of the opposition. Don't know if there had been anything in the game which provoked it but I did see Giudetti score a pen for Celta to make it 1-1 and do the whole hands behind ears "Can't hear you" celebration near end of first half. Cruyff and Jesper Olsen (I am sure) scored a similar one for Ajax in the 80's, first time I had seen it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) I think somebody tried it and made a complete mess of it. Thierry Henry? robert pires and Terry Henry... http://youtu.be/0l_QmTEoPdk Edited February 15, 2016 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: I think somebody tried it and made a complete mess of it. Thierry Henry? Pires and Henry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Pires and Henry. Just checked and tried to post the link at same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis McBasher Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Disrespectful would be him wiping his arse with a Celta top in front of the away fans, that was entertaining. Edited February 15, 2016 by Haggis McBasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Clever and ballsy. He's the only one with anything to lose if it goes erse up, has to fully trust the next person to touch it is Suarez without looking that he's ready as he goes to the ball. If its not Suarez next he would be getting stick for a horrible penalty. Not disrespectful, a defender matching Suarez's run properly could have cleared. Wouldn't have happened if it was Ronaldo on a Hat-trick, he'd have scored the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Sheer arrogance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's a bit of a piss take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 No way Ronaldo would have passed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Good to watch something different. Gets fans talking, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Disrespectful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Football is entertainment. That entertained. Saying it's disrespectful is complete guff. Im surprised no-one has been moaning and greeting about Neymar's class flick over the head. Another piece of fantastic entertainment ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louch Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Disrespectful. Save that for testimonials or charity games. Messi is good enough at penalties that he didn't have to do that. Anyone who follows me on twitter, I have posted a pm I got from graham hunter for saying It was disrespectful. The is a difference between trickery and piss taking, and this crossed the line from entertainment to showing a lack of respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's a sporadically used method of taking a penalty. Nothing genius or original about it. It's also less effective than just hitting it from the spot, as your adding in many more variables. Do it when it means something, no point "risk-taking" when there is no risk. I find it interesting that they decided to do a risky move only in conditions when the risk has been mitigated by the score. So they're doing it cause it's safe to do so. I find no entertainment in risks when there is no risk, Zidane did his little chip at 0-0 in the world cup final, on a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It shouldn't have stood. Suarez was inside the penalty arc when the penalty kick was taken. Its a bit pathetic doing it when already winning comfortably IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Neither watched the highlights and thought his free kick, assist for Suarez first goal, skill to win the penalty and dribble that lead to Surez second goal all far more news worthy. The wee man is unplayable when he's like that. It is interesting that while on 299 la liga goals he decided to set up a team mate instead of trying to score himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Mazziessc said: Clever and ballsy. He's the only one with anything to lose if it goes erse up, has to fully trust the next person to touch it is Suarez without looking that he's ready as he goes to the ball. If its not Suarez next he would be getting stick for a horrible penalty. Not disrespectful, a defender matching Suarez's run properly could have cleared. Wouldn't have happened if it was Ronaldo on a Hat-trick, he'd have scored the pen. Neymar claimed the penalty pass was actually for him so it didn't quite work out exactly as planned. I just read that if Messi had scored it would have been his 300th La Liga goal so its quite something to pass up that opportunity, not that it will take him long to get 300 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 5 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: It is interesting that while on 299 la liga goals he decided to set up a team mate instead of trying to score himself. I didn't know that, and he did it by taking a risk in a riskless situation. That is interesdting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, phart said: It's a sporadically used method of taking a penalty. Nothing genius or original about it. It's also less effective than just hitting it from the spot, as your adding in many more variables. Do it when it means something, no point "risk-taking" when there is no risk. I find it interesting that they decided to do a risky move only in conditions when the risk has been mitigated by the score. So they're doing it cause it's safe to do so. I find no entertainment in risks when there is no risk, Zidane did his little chip at 0-0 in the world cup final, on a penalty. There is risk though. Loss of a hat-trick and his 300th goal in the league? You can even add in the fact he gets a missed pen on his record, he also sets up a goal which he doesnt even get an assist for as technically he missed. He did have risk and he didnt really gain much from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, phart said: I didn't know that, and he did it by taking a risk in a riskless situation. That is interesdting. Isn't a penalty still a risk? given how often Barcelona miss them in saying that surely Suarez just taking the pen himself would have been the less risky option. His record I think is excellent. Possibly a tribute to cruff? After his good news this week Edited February 15, 2016 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mazziessc said: There is risk though. Loss of a hat-trick and his 300th goal in the league? You can even add in the fact he gets a missed pen on his record, he also sets up a goal which he doesnt even get an assist for as technically he missed. He did have risk and he didnt really gain much from it. Good point, he avoided the chance of missing his 300th goal and passed the ball. Chose the lesser risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's perfectly legal, and it's entertaining. It's also completely disrespectful to fellow professionals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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