Orraloon Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, thplinth said: Been a bit of a long day but also reasonably awesome. Went to bed last night a bit gloomy about our futures. Going to bed tonight thinking a new indy ref is almost on the cards within 3 years and in a political landscape that makes a YES look far more likely. I dont think anyone expected this. It reminds me of the 70 seats out of nowhere and thus the chance from nowhere we were given for indy ref 1. Well this is another one, another unbelievable result, someone up there must like us, and we cant piss this one away. I think you should mibbe have a lie doon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Scunnered said: The UK has just removed itself from a Union which forbids socialism, forces austerity and will soon allow corporations to sue governments if their public services affect profits. It's very hard not to see that as anything other than a victory. Impossible even. who will be the bringer of this socialist paradise. Gove, IDS or Boris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Henry McLiesh finally comes out? Aye. I said that months ago when I was at a conference with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Mindimoo said: Aye. I said that months ago when I was at a conference with him. Has he said it in public before though? I must have missed it if he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, flumax said: who will be the bringer of this socialist paradise. Gove, IDS or Boris? As I've said 1,000,000 times before, the barriers preventing socialism are the exact same in the UK as they would be in an independent Scotland. Both have populations equally opposed to such. In the EU in either makes it impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 39 minutes ago, neilser said: I was worried about a Leave vote but genuinely thought there weren't enough blinkered people to swing it for Leave. It was jaw dropping watching Channel 4 news tonight when they interviewed people from Barnsley and Romford talking about Muslims, foreigners and Turks - I've genuinely not heard stuff like that up here. We're a different country. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I think you should mibbe have a lie doon. And i think you are mibbes a tedious tool. Night night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, thplinth said: And i think you are mibbes a tedious tool. Night night. Can't argue with that. You'll not manage to sleep. You've got yourself too excited. The referendum won't be for at least a year. Don't peak too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Starkey on BBC 2. as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Orraloon said: Can't argue with that. You'll not manage to sleep. You've got yourself too excited. The referendum won't be for at least a year. Don't peak too soon. I was just away to my bed. Feck knows why you felt the need to reply other than your usual need to post some supercilious pish on the end of every on here. It wont be me posting pithy wee khunt comments into the wee hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 58 minutes ago, Alan said: Fuxsake wasn't expecting that result but then I'm part of the "metropolitan elite". I don't get places like Basildon, Barnsley or Boston. Boroughs in London like Lambeth and Wandsworth voted to Remain more than Scotland as a whole and I lived and enjoyed these places. It's nuts IMHO. For me the economy is the most important thing in elections. This debate was not about that. I'm in shock. Enjoy. Its your lot that got us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) 55 minutes ago, neilser said: I was worried about a Leave vote but genuinely thought there weren't enough blinkered people to swing it for Leave. It was jaw dropping watching Channel 4 news tonight when they interviewed people from Barnsley and Romford talking about Muslims, foreigners and Turks - I've genuinely not heard stuff like that up here. We're a different country. Sadly I have heard this in Scotland, what makes it worse is that these people don't live with 50 miles of anyone with a different colour of skin to them. I'm talking about people I used to associate as intelligent but 2014 and now this referendum reavealed their true nature. Edited June 24, 2016 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Heard tonight a theory that Scotland may try and use the "reverse Greenland" model. Denmark retains membership within EU but Greenland under its control got exempted. so Scotland would stay within EU and rest of Uk would come out. Intriguing that Sturgeon cited speaking to the London mayor about strategy. London may stay in also? wouldnt be Indy, however it would possibly gain traction as that third way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, giblet said: Heard tonight a theory that Scotland may try and use the "reverse Greenland" model. Denmark retains membership within EU but Greenland under its control got exempted. so Scotland would stay within EU and rest of Uk would come out. Intriguing that Sturgeon cited speaking to the London mayor about strategy. London may stay in also? wouldnt be Indy, however it would possibly gain traction as that third way.. You'd have heard it here too an hour ago 1 hour ago, Mindimoo said: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-scottish-referendum-scotland-eu-remain-nicola-sturgeon-snp-a7100736.html intereating scenario perhaps. I think a scenario like that is what we should push for first in any negotiations. Definitely a better option than another extended referendum campaign with no guarantee of success... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Read that as well, but its surely nonsense. For a start, Greenland and Faroes are sets of islands, we are connected to England, it would simply be unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Toepoke said: You'd have heard it here too an hour ago I think a scenario like that is what we should push for first in any negotiations. Definitely a better option than another extended referendum campaign with no guarantee of success... Oops, site is shite on mobile! (That's my excuse). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, giblet said: Heard tonight a theory that Scotland may try and use the "reverse Greenland" model. Denmark retains membership within EU but Greenland under its control got exempted. so Scotland would stay within EU and rest of Uk would come out. Intriguing that Sturgeon cited speaking to the London mayor about strategy. London may stay in also? wouldnt be Indy, however it would possibly gain traction as that third way.. fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, kumnio said: Read that as well, but its surely nonsense. For a start, Greenland and Faroes are sets of islands, we are connected to England, it would simply be unworkable. A lot of obstacles to it, but we're in uncharted waters here. As it stands we're going to have an EU / non-EU border on Ireland, would it be possible for one to exist on Great Britain?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Why are some adults so fecking childish and kids so grown up? Woman on the radio news just now bleating on about not being racist but that her grandchild had a Polish kid who couldn't speak English in their class. Big fecking deal - my kids have had that and because they're kids rather than bigots they and their classmates speak to the child who then rapidly learns English and is quickly integrated. I honestly despair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, Toepoke said: A lot of obstacles to it, but we're in uncharted waters here. As it stands we're going to have an EU / non-EU border on Ireland, would it be possible for one to exist on Great Britain?... That's one of the more sinister elements of Cameron's idiotic decision. This is a monumental phuk up : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/northern-irish-peace-sacrificed-english-nationalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Scunnered said: You know me, I piss and shït red mate You really need to see a doctor about that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 The Daily Record is 90p ?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Orraloon said: Henry McLiesh finally comes out? Him and Ronaldo? Whit a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 10 hours ago, DaveyDenoon said: Well I for one didn't believe the lie nor the other lies. But many did. Are you seriously suggesting that the fact a politician has lied, and a nation voted a particular way on the premise of that lie, should be tolerated? You made the point that we voted No so must accept being dragged out of Europe, I'm making the point that our referendum result was heavily influenced by one major lie amongst many others. And you're ok with that? My point wasn't aimed at any specific politician, it was aimed at every politician. All the main players tell lies or severely twist the truth to get what they want. I rely on them to run the country, I don't rely on them to help me make my mind up on important issues. If we all did that, we would have voted Yes 95 to 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Extremely hard day for me yesterday, politically.. As a leave voter and snp/yes voter seeing freinds and long term snp supporters saying tbe will no longer vote snp was hard going,, i fear banff and buchan is lost to the snp now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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