iainmac1 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I was just thinking if Celtic win the Scottish Cup then they will have done so without playing a top league team at all. All lower league teams they've played. When was the last time a team won the cup by only ever playing lower league teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Interesting stat! I know Killie only played one in 1997 (Dundee Utd in the semi). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 No idea. I do know the only team to win the Scottish Cup whilst not being in the top league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 East Fife? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: East Fife? Yep. You got that disappointingly quickly. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 No prizes for guessing who they beat in the final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Toepoke said: No prizes for guessing who they beat in the final Hibs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Hibs!! Haha. Obviously us! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 12 hours ago, RenfrewBlue said: Yep. You got that disappointingly quickly. ? They mentioned it in the commentary of the game yesterday I'm sure? Seemed like something I'd learned recently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstroma Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The Bairns have lost 3 cup finals whilst in the lower league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 8 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Hibs!! You sure? off the top of my head the only clubs to win their first trophy against us are Motherwell, Aberdeen, Livingston and Ross County. Possibly followed by The Rangers next month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Saint Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Kilmarnock apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Fife_F.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) This must be the first final between lower league teams then... Poor East Fife losing their claim to fame. Edited April 17, 2016 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 My question is now irrelevant. Perhaps no one had ever won it by only playing lower league teams. But yeah the commentator said this is the first ever final between two lower teams outwith the top league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: My question is now irrelevant. Perhaps no one had ever won it by only playing lower league teams. But yeah the commentator said this is the first ever final between two lower teams outwith the top league. Two lower teams out with the top league? As opposed to two lower league teams playing in the top league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 That lower shouldn't have been in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 A case for league reconstruction......with all these 'lower' teams doing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: A case for league reconstruction......with all these 'lower' teams doing well It has to happen. 16 team top league. Play each other twice, home and away. Every fixture is unique. No messing about with some teams playing more home than away games vice-versa. Fixtures generated well in advance to help fans plan. Generate interest. Create League Cup Group Stages - addresses fixture shortfall, could be set up to help our teams competing in Europe to give them help for our own co-efficient, would hopefully see teams use younger squad players early in season to give them a chance. Probably facilitates a winter break too. It's time....... Edited April 18, 2016 by SMcoolJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 47 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: ICreate League Cup Group Stages - addresses fixture shortfall, could be set up to help our teams competing in Europe to give them help for our own co-efficient, would hopefully see teams use younger squad players early in season to give them a chance. Probably facilitates a winter break too. It's time....... You do know this is happening already. Starts in July! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: You do know this is happening already. Starts in July! Yes, but just the League Cup part unfortunately?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Given until about the semi-final stage, crowds at the LC are utterly horrendous, I really don't know why so many seem to think this would be feasible for replacing league games and the drop in revenue from cutting the number of matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said: Given until about the semi-final stage, crowds at the LC are utterly horrendous, I really don't know why so many seem to think this would be feasible for replacing league games and the drop in revenue from cutting the number of matches. You include the LC Group games in the season ticket price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: You include the LC Group games in the season ticket price. Which, given the share of the gate, clubs will definitely not be looking to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cove_Sheep said: Given until about the semi-final stage, crowds at the LC are utterly horrendous, I really don't know why so many seem to think this would be feasible for replacing league games and the drop in revenue from cutting the number of matches. Agree to a point. Although with less league games, would the league cup move to weekends rather than midweek? That may help? This has been a fairly unique couple of seasons with traditionally bigger clubs in the 2nd tier, and likely be 1 or 2, maybe even 3 bigger teams there next year. Lets be honest though, if 2 from Hamilton, Patrick thistle, ICT, Ross county, stjohnstone, Dundee... went down and Rangers and Hibs came up, most folk would go back to not giving a hoot about the 2nd tier. Edited April 18, 2016 by sbcmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 14 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: A case for league reconstruction......with all these 'lower' teams doing well Lower league teams have been beating Premiership sides regularly for years now. It isn't just a new phenomenom because we have Rangers and Hibs in the Championship. League expansion should have happened years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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