antidote Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Scunnered said: It raises my spirits to know I might live in an independent Scotland one day... Further still when I think racist Nazi khunts like you will be long dead too see it! But a red tory sell out like you will still be alive? My 3 children, 4, 3 years & 16 months, will take my place, if you're still around that is. Care to state where I have been racist? If you look at your comment about me allegedly starting all this, then just go back to page 2 and see your reference to me being racist. The real start of all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 48 minutes ago, Denny's Yard said: Ah okay. Well, if you know a small child, you could ask them to set it up for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Will be very interesting to see the turnout, results and breakdown of this election. It looks to me like we're in a pretty strange situation just now. People not really knowing what they want, who they want, or how best to express there vote(s). Plenty of people on here and elsewhere calling out expectations of a low turnout which would somewhat go against the re-engagement from the referendum and the higher than average turnout for the GE last year. Not to mention the additional votes from 16 & 17 year olds coming on board for the first time. The other big question people appear to be having is whether the SNP have peaked - and what represents failure for them. General thinking that a failure to get a majority is a failure, but a successful majority would just be accepted as a norm. It's a dangerous situation for them to be in but there's been an underlying narrative around this for some time to develop a situation that the only way is down for the SNP. While the majority of voters laugh-off the SNPbad mantra from Scottish Labour, the constant narrative of SNP criticism on Health, Education, and whatever else has however seemed to have make it's impact - as plenty of people (as seen here as a prime example) have stated a level of dissatisfaction and many a feeling of SNP being 'unworthy' of their 2nd vote, and so on. Plenty of people have bought in to that. It's absolutely fair enough to call in to question the SNP but the question really is who is best to govern Scotland. I honestly think think that many people are giving away their 2nd SNP vote on the opinion they've developed that the SNP 'are not doing enough' but it's not really addressing the point that the alternative is Kez or Ruth - neither of whom look like shaping up to do anything better. Of course there are some that would hope for an SNP minority government to put more pressure on them. The only party seemingly capable of getting concessions in that instance may be the Greens and it's not going to be anything big like moving to a 50p tax-rate or anything of that sort. Even in majority government, the SNP have shown examples of willingness to collaborate with Labour policies brought forward, and willingness to back down from stupidity such as on some of MacAskill's justice position u-turns. Other times, the membership has forced re-thinks on matters such as Land Reform not going far enough. Nevertheless, it seems that support for the SNP may be starting to wane according to some. It'll be interesting to see what that translates to in terms of votes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Are there any exit polls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Duncan Blackheart said: Are there any exit polls? No Me and my Dad voted SNP both votes though at our polling station if that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 The Sun tweeting that the Tory's will be 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, iainmac1 said: The Sun tweeting that the Tory's will be 2nd "Comfortably" apparently. Labour already conceding defeat in all Glasgow constituencies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Turnout looks lower than expected which I think will spell more trouble for Labour. Must be least motivated vote in Scotland right now so if they've stayed at home... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kumnio Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Turnout was only 50.4% in 2011, will it be lower this year, hopefully not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 35 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: No Me and my Dad voted SNP both votes though at our polling station if that helps Cheers. Would be interesting if that were the result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Labour sources saying they've lost all Glasgow seats. Ho hum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, Duncan Blackheart said: Cheers. Would be interesting if that were the result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 41 minutes ago, Auld_Reekie said: Turnout looks lower than expected which I think will spell more trouble for Labour. Must be least motivated vote in Scotland right now so if they've stayed at home... Not only the voters, they won't gave the activists on the ground to get the vote out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Paul Middleton @DrPaulMiddleton 1m1 minute agoChester, England Reports that both @scotlibdems and @scotgp sources suggesting Greens will finish above LibDems. #SP16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 44 minutes ago, kumnio said: Turnout was only 50.4% in 2011, will it be lower this year, hopefully not. Possibly higher level of postal votes though? Edinburgh South seemed to be pretty busy. Anyway voted against the SNP on both counts. Been involved with the government on a couple of matters over the last two years (mainly land and fishery conservation, from a legal point of view), and was pretty disheartening to see how the scientific evidence was treated by various committees dominated by the SNP. Even although the outcome was positive to a certain extent, the lack of scrutiny was worrying, and people on the committee making valid points were simply outvoted by the pack. Simply put- there was no one to hold them to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 3 hours ago, antidote said: My 3 children, 4, 3 years & 16 months, will take my place, if you're still around that is. You believe your children will also be Scottish Supremacists?... Talk about having high hopes for your children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, kumnio said: Paul Middleton @DrPaulMiddleton 1m1 minute agoChester, England Reports that both @scotlibdems and @scotgp sources suggesting Greens will finish above LibDems. #SP16 Thought the Greens ran an excellent campaign. My granny voted for them !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 SNP saying Rutherglen has gone to them this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Rutherglen with 55% of the vote, only got 39.5% last time, thats a massive swing, if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, kumnio said: Rutherglen with 55% of the vote, only got 39.5% last time, thats a massive swing, if true. It was the start of the massive swings last time round. Would be interesting to discover the total swing from 2007! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Greens looking good for 4th place and beating Labour in Kelvin (Harvie) according to Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2007 - SNP 23.2% Labour 44.6% 2011 - SNP 39.5% Labour 46.1% 2016 - SNP 55% Labour Who knows Didnt think we would see big swings such as happened in 2011, it could be apocalypse for Labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 After nearly killing myself last year on the Limoncella nips for every constituency won by the SNP, I've opted for a slow swig of red wine Labour wine this year sipping away their vote as it falls. Although the thought of Murdo Fraser, Davidson, crowing about second is giving me the boak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoltanBuchan Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Slightly different atmosphere on the thread tonight compared to the previous Holyrood election, as this one's a foregone conclusion. Only real points of interest are who's come second, and the results of a few constituencies. BBC now reporting the Lib Dems might actually hold Orkney and Shetland with a bigger majority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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