Pool Q Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 13 hours ago, thewolf_1980 said: With the exception of a few games at the start in Division 3, our home gates were rarely close to 40k. I've been there throughout and it was under 30k most weeks, sometimes a lot less than that. Extra 10k punters x £20/game = £2m + savings on dross players released + increased revenue from merchandise (TBC) + increased revenue from hospitality + increased revenue from TV deals etc. etc. Season tickets are expected to be up by approximately 8-10k from, say, the 2nd division. Crude arithmetic, I know, but you get the gist hopefully. I meant to acknowledge this yesterday. My mistake re crowds in the past few seasons, I honestly thought they were usually around the 40,000 mark. Take your points, all fair ones I'm sure. The question is whether, considering that they started from a loss making position, the increase in revenue is really sufficient to justify borrowing £5m at this stage. If it were me I'd be very wary of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 52 minutes ago, Pool Q said: I meant to acknowledge this yesterday. My mistake re crowds in the past few seasons, I honestly thought they were usually around the 40,000 mark. Take your points, all fair ones I'm sure. The question is whether, considering that they started from a loss making position, the increase in revenue is really sufficient to justify borrowing £5m at this stage. If it were me I'd be very wary of that. I don't think anyone can deny there is some risk attached. Personally, I feel that the income this year will far outweigh the risk of a £5m loan from the shareholders. £5m is a very healthy budget for Rangers considering where they have been recently and where they are now. I think if we knew the terms of the loan we would be far better placed to judge the future, it being soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 On the subject of something other than Rangers, Dundee Utd are surely about to sign Stewart Murdoch now he's been released by Ross County. Also, McKinnon is trying to persuade Cammy Bell to come to Tannadice (slightly Rangers related I suppose). Currently 2500 season tickets sold which I would have thought was quite alarming, but they seem to think it's ok. Haven't renewed my lot yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Young Ben Hall signs for Brighton after playing about 20 games for Motherwell. These young guys must drive their clubs mad. Lets hope he's not another Paul Slane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Och Aye said: Young Ben Hall signs for Brighton after playing about 20 games for Motherwell. These young guys must drive their clubs mad. Lets hope he's not another Paul Slane. As many as 20? A bit disappointing as he looked a decent player, would've been great to get a few seasons from him and get a decent fee when he moved on. He'll be getting far more money than we could've offered him, but probably never see first team football again unless he's loaned out to Stevenage or Kettering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 hours ago, adamntg said: Currently 2500 season tickets sold which I would have thought was quite alarming, but they seem to think it's ok. Haven't renewed my lot yet. Whats your average over the last few years as a matter of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 On 13/06/2016 at 10:27 AM, BlueGaz said: It's not usual rumour, its been reported and King was quoted. That said, its only correct if the report is correct. I think both are right, fundamentally it is a debt, there is no getting away from it. However its a 'soft loan', and not knowing the details of that loan or the thoughts of the lenders, its difficult to say if it will potentially cause any issues. It could be that it is written off in one way or another, we don't know. Also, in the big scheme of things, it is only £5m. Season tickets this season should mount to c£20m, and then there is the potential to start getting merchandise profit again etc, so although its a loan on paper, I think they are being very conservative. Edit: not all aimed at you Rossy, can't quote RB. I think its usually between 4-5000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Utd after Cammy Bell. we need an experienced keeper right enough. has he been getting any game time recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Utd after Cammy Bell. we need an experienced keeper right enough. has he been getting any game time recently? Not sure if the link is correct, but didnt play a game for first team last season. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/cammy-bell/profil/spieler/12753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewolf_1980 Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, ShedTA said: Utd after Cammy Bell. we need an experienced keeper right enough. has he been getting any game time recently? No games at all for the first team last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Cammy Bells last game.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Whats your average over the last few years as a matter of interest? About 5000. They claim they're on course, I hae ma doots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ShedTA said: sorry, got stuck again. Edited June 14, 2016 by BlueGaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, adamntg said: About 5000. They claim they're on course, I hae ma doots. Suppose it is to be expected after last season and relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 It's all went quiet from AFC. No 'keeper, centre half or hard midfielder signed and we have our first competitive game in 2 weeks. No wonder season ticket sales have been shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, Parklife said: It's all went quiet from AFC. No 'keeper, centre half or hard midfielder signed and we have our first competitive game in 2 weeks. No wonder season ticket sales have been shite. Looks like somebody's missed today's big pie announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, deecie said: Looks like somebody's missed today's big pie announcement. It'd be funny if it wasn't so cringeworthingly embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 27 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Suppose it is to be expected after last season and relegation. yep. I think if Mckinnon puts a decent team together and they start to play reasonable stuff then the crowds will hold up. but I don't think many are rushing to renew season tickets at the moment understandably! its the old story if they are there or there abouts for promotion then the crowds will be good, possibly even better than last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 hours ago, ShedTA said: yep. I think if Mckinnon puts a decent team together and they start to play reasonable stuff then the crowds will hold up. but I don't think many are rushing to renew season tickets at the moment understandably! its the old story if they are there or there abouts for promotion then the crowds will be good, possibly even better than last season. There's no need to buy a season ticket. There's bound to be some games in the dark winter months that you won't be interested in. If you just buy for the games you go to it'll save you some pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Paul Hanlon signs new 3 year deal with the Hibees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The Sun reporting that Utd are in for Willo Flood and that Aberdeen are likely to sign Callum Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 http://www.afc.co.uk/news/8005.php#.V2EZGLsrKM8 Morris confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Apparently goalie Joe Lewis has just arrived at pittodrie from Fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 minute ago, dandydunn said: Apparently goalie Joe Lewis has just arrived at pittodrie from Fulham. I won't believe it until I see him in TESCO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, deecie said: I won't believe it until I see him in TESCO. He's from Fulham. He'll be in sainsburys or markies. Tesco players are below the targets of the famous. Completely unrelated,but my mate just sold a tin of paint to Darren Mackie on gumtree. He haggled him from £8 to £5. He would be a tesco shopper,probably late in the evening when the price drops come into effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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