AberdeenAngus Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, adamntg said: What's this then? http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/seasonclub/ 222 CS Fola Esch LUX 0.250 Last season's. Better using Bert Kassie's site. Updated regularly. http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2016.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, macy37 said: That Rossy lad is an extremely angry khunt mind eh? Furious, min. Quite unfriendly really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Here is this season's official Uefa Club rankings - figures match Bert's. http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html Fola ranked not far behind Hibs and ICT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 minute ago, AberdeenAngus said: Here is this season's official Uefa Club rankings - figures match Bert's. http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html Fola ranked not far behind Hibs and ICT. Which in itself is an embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Just now, Larky Masher said: Which in itself is an embarrassment. Aye but that's the point I've been making for a while. That is where we are ranked. Time we got over the 'we'll surely beat them' attitudes to some countries. Everyone else is improving whilst we are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 minute ago, AberdeenAngus said: Aye but that's the point I've been making for a while. That is where we are ranked. Time we got over the 'we'll surely beat them' attitudes to some countries. Everyone else is improving whilst we are not. Indeed it's quite depressing, we must have the highest paid pub teams in Europe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, AberdeenAngus said: Aye but that's the point I've been making for a while. That is where we are ranked. Time we got over the 'we'll surely beat them' attitudes to some countries. Everyone else is improving whilst we are not. And it's where we'll stay when our second best team are losing games in Luxembourg. Now, that's not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Just now, adamntg said: And it's where we'll stay when our second best team are losing games in Luxembourg. Now, that's not funny. Wrong again. Aberdeen got all the co-efficient points available for the tie by getting through to he next round. I'm not saying saying that Thursday was not a massively poor and disappointing result but again remind you that we were not knocked out. Points for winning individual games only happen in the group stages. We'll stay in that vicinity of co-efficient points until a few of our clubs make some serious progress on a regular basis. But as a few have pointed out making the group stages will take a lot of luck and exceptional performances to negotiate 4 qualifying rounds where most will be unseeded in 3 of those rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 So, given Fola have lost every single tie they've ever played, the only points they get are for entering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Just now, adamntg said: So, given Fola have lost every single tie they've ever played, the only points they get are for entering? A bit like your own side in that respect then in that any current co-efficient points against your club are also for entering only. I know you only want to take the piss and fair enough it was a rotten result as I keep repeating BUT for all your efforts I'm still going to yet another European game on Thursday night and with a bit of luck and an improved performance I'll maybe get another after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 My team are beyond pish just now, don't even deserve a mention. Best of luck for the next round, hope youse get better results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 minute ago, adamntg said: My team are beyond pish just now, don't even deserve a mention. Best of luck for the next round, hope youse get better results. Better than going through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, deecie said: Better than going through? Better than becoming the first Scottish team to ever lose a match against a team from Luxembourg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 9 hours ago, adamntg said: Furious, min. Quite unfriendly really. I'm really not, I'm the nicest person out there. I just don't suffer fools very well, sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, adamntg said: My team are beyond pish just now, don't even deserve a mention. Actually, they do. As do Motherwell, Hibs and over the last few years, Celtic and Rangers. All these clubs have had constantly humiliating results in Europe that have helped Scotland's co-efficient drop to where it is today. In recent years, I think only Aberdeen and St Johnstone have had results that have improved the co-efficient (maybe a couple of games from Celtic aside). Aberdeen were beyond awful last Thursday. Pitiful, with no mitigation. We don't deserve to be in the next round and unless there's a massive improvement we'll be out on Thursday even after the first leg. I realise you're just stirring the pot, that's pretty obvious, but it's a bit rich trying to pick on one single result when in fact the last 20 years in Scottish football in general is littered with similar (or IMHO, even worse) abominations. To talk about Scottish football's 'worst' result in Europe is the ultimate 'how long is a piece of string' discussion. Edited July 11, 2016 by Rossy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 11 hours ago, AberdeenAngus said: Wrong again. Aberdeen got all the co-efficient points available for the tie by getting through to he next round. I'm not saying saying that Thursday was not a massively poor and disappointing result but again remind you that we were not knocked out. Points for winning individual games only happen in the group stages. We'll stay in that vicinity of co-efficient points until a few of our clubs make some serious progress on a regular basis. But as a few have pointed out making the group stages will take a lot of luck and exceptional performances to negotiate 4 qualifying rounds where most will be unseeded in 3 of those rounds. but you did lose 0.25 points for Scotland by not beating them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, dipped flake said: but you did lose 0.25 points for Scotland by not beating them Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Rossy is one angry, angry guy. He's as paranoid as the worst old firm culprits on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, Rossy said: Sorry. just don't do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I'll reserve judgement on the "worst Scottish result in Europe ever" (although it does seem a bit melodramatic..) however that performance by AFC on Thursday was woeful. If we play like that in the next round we'll get pumped. We've done pretty well in the last two seasons in Europe. We've dispathced the minnows comfortably both years, then beat Groningen and Rejika in consecutive seasons. Ultimately losing out to Sociedad (no shame in that) and a very well funded Kairat Almaty (disappointing because we could've done more to win the tie at home). I'm hoping Thursday will see a much more impressive performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Rossy said: I'm really not, I'm the nicest person out there. I just don't suffer fools very well, sorry about that. Nice ad hominem. Wouldn't feel the need myself, especially over something as trivial as football, but if you're happy then I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On 10/07/2016 at 11:04 AM, Redz said: Stick to a particular genre of karaoke than comedy Still trying to get it organised... fortunately I work with some ladies of that persuasion and discussions are at an advanced stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Rossy said: Actually, they do. As do Motherwell, Hibs and over the last few years, Celtic and Rangers. All these clubs have had constantly humiliating results in Europe that have helped Scotland's co-efficient drop to where it is today. In recent years, I think only Aberdeen and St Johnstone have had results that have improved the co-efficient (maybe a couple of games from Celtic aside). Aberdeen were beyond awful last Thursday. Pitiful, with no mitigation. We don't deserve to be in the next round and unless there's a massive improvement we'll be out on Thursday even after the first leg. I realise you're just stirring the pot, that's pretty obvious, but it's a bit rich trying to pick on one single result when in fact the last 20 years in Scottish football in general is littered with similar (or IMHO, even worse) abominations. To talk about Scottish football's 'worst' result in Europe is the ultimate 'how long is a piece of string' discussion. Agreed and we'll be having the same conversation for many years to come as long as our first competitive games of the season are European qualifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Rossy is one angry, angry guy. He's as paranoid as the worst old firm culprits on here. Have we met ? I'm just wondering, because you come across on here as a seriously anal trainspotting compulsive with absolutely no sense of humour. I'm sure in real life you're a nice guy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Rossy said: I'm just wondering, because you come across on here as a seriously anal trainspotting compulsive with absolutely no sense of humour. I You have described yourself down to a T there, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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