deecie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Aye, nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, deecie said: In a 2 legged match, only the overall result counts. It's clearly not ideal losing in LUX/GIB, but if you get through, who cares? Hearts result was poor, the other 3 teams did fine this week, sorry that this doesn't fit your nonsense agenda. Are coefficient points awarded for results in each individual leg or is it only for the overall tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Are coefficient points awarded for results in each individual leg or is it only for the overall tie? Doesn't matter, they're as good as worthless in the qualifying rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 34 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: Are coefficient points awarded for results in each individual leg or is it only for the overall tie? Only for the overall tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, Parklife said: Only for the overall tie. Nope (I'm quoting the BT commentator here!!). Individual matches in these early rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 jobby neilson on a long contract hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, deecie said: Aye, nonsense. Your posts often amuse me - and you're part of the running fraternity :-) But, think today you're defending the indefensible. Agree to disagree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, scot scotland scottish said: Your posts often amuse me - and you're part of the running fraternity :-) But, think today you're defending the indefensible. Agree to disagree... You appear to be a terrible judge of character!! Hearts aside, in Europe this season we've done enough. I'm sure we'd all rather be doing a lot better but we're dealt a pretty useless hand to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 20 minutes ago, dan cake said: jobby neilson on a long contract hopefully Till summer of 2018 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Dalgety Bay TA said: Ukrainians and Russians both shut down for long periods over winter. Hasn't stopped the likes of Zenit and Shakhtar reaching Europan finals over recent years, possibly some other side too which I can't think of at moment. Then are helped by having mega millions to throw at players though so it's not s direct comparison. Our season is effectively 10 months - August to May. Switch to mid Feb to mid November and the only impact, if there actually is anyone still in Europe, is possibly last 2 group games which tend to be end of Nov, early Dec. By the time your season starts you are probably hitting the knockout stages of European competitions starting up. If we are still consistently relevant at that point then we probably aren't playing as many ties at start of competition. As you said, we need to start winning games to break the circle of playing early games. But we would be better prepped if these games were mid season instead of preseason. agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, scot scotland scottish said: Nope (I'm quoting the BT commentator here!!). Individual matches in these early rounds Nope. Points awarded for the round a side is eliminated. Explains why some sides have a reasonable coefficient which appears higher than their actual results. The club coefficient rankings are based on the results of clubs competing in the five previous seasons of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League. The rankings determine the seeding of each club in all UEFA competition draws. UEFA Champions League points system First qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points Second qualifying round elimination – 1 point Group stage participation – 4 points Group stage win – 2 points Group stage draw – 1 point Round of 16 participation – 4 points Since 2009/10 clubs have been awarded an additional point if they reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final. NB Points are not awarded for elimination in the third qualifying round or play-offs, since those clubs move to the UEFA Europa League and are awarded points for participation in that competition. UEFA Europa League points system First qualifying round elimination – 0.25 points Second qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points Third qualifying round elimination – 1 point Play-off elimination – 1.5 points Group stage win – 2 points Group stage draw – 1 point Since 2009/10, clubs have been guaranteed a minimum of two points if they reach the group stage and are awarded an additional point if they get to the quarter-finals, semi-finals or final. *Penalty shoot-outs do not affect the calculation system. Coefficient calculation Clubs' coefficients are determined by the sum of all points won in the previous five years, plus 20% of the association coefficient over the same period (33% before 2009). These rankings will be updated after each round of UEFA club competition matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, scot scotland scottish said: Nope (I'm quoting the BT commentator here!!). Individual matches in these early rounds As outlined below, the BT commentator seems to be yet another person who's less knowledgeable than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Parklife said: As outlined below, the BT commentator seems to be yet another person who's less knowledgeable than me. Quite a feat I'm sure you'll agree :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, AberdeenAngus said: Nope. Points awarded for the round a side is eliminated. Explains why some sides have a reasonable coefficient which appears higher than their actual results. The club coefficient rankings are based on the results of clubs competing in the five previous seasons of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League. The rankings determine the seeding of each club in all UEFA competition draws. UEFA Champions League points system First qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points Second qualifying round elimination – 1 point Group stage participation – 4 points Group stage win – 2 points Group stage draw – 1 point Round of 16 participation – 4 points Since 2009/10 clubs have been awarded an additional point if they reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final. NB Points are not awarded for elimination in the third qualifying round or play-offs, since those clubs move to the UEFA Europa League and are awarded points for participation in that competition. UEFA Europa League points system First qualifying round elimination – 0.25 points Second qualifying round elimination – 0.5 points Third qualifying round elimination – 1 point Play-off elimination – 1.5 points Group stage win – 2 points Group stage draw – 1 point Since 2009/10, clubs have been guaranteed a minimum of two points if they reach the group stage and are awarded an additional point if they get to the quarter-finals, semi-finals or final. *Penalty shoot-outs do not affect the calculation system. Coefficient calculation Clubs' coefficients are determined by the sum of all points won in the previous five years, plus 20% of the association coefficient over the same period (33% before 2009). These rankings will be updated after each round of UEFA club competition matches. Fair do's Good knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 hours ago, deecie said: 56 minutes ago, scot scotland scottish said: Fair do's Good knowledge! Aye 'ctrl C' followed by 'ctrl V' can take a good while to work out so fair play....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Aye 'ctrl C' followed by 'ctrl V' can take a good while to work out so fair play....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, deecie said: Aye 'ctrl C' followed by 'ctrl V' can take a good while to work out so fair play....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, deecie said: Aye 'ctrl C' followed by 'ctrl V' can take a good while to work out so fair play....... I'm confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 56 minutes ago, Angus_Young said: Aye 'ctrl C' followed by 'ctrl V' can take a good while to work out so fair play....... Do you think I didn't know he'd copied and pasted it????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hibs boys seemed to enjoy themselves in Copenhagen anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, giblet said: Hibs boys seemed to enjoy themselves in Copenhagen anyway. I'm not surprised, Copenhagen is a fantastic city. Imagine what Berlin would have been like!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Bill Brown think Archie Knox, Walter Smith and Jim Jeffries can sort it all out, apparently we also need to get back to playing the Scottish way but then he names foreign players as some sort of hey day for scottish football. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36870182 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 On 23 July 2016 at 7:51 PM, DoonTheSlope said: I'm not surprised, Copenhagen is a fantastic city. Imagine what Berlin would have been like!! I've still not forgiven my parents for not allowing 13 year old @deecie to head to Berlin himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) On 7/22/2016 at 11:37 AM, Pool Q said: Once again, co-efficient points are awarded for every point a club gains, it is just that the points go towards the countries total. So far Scottish clubs have gained 15 points in Europe (Aberdeen 6, Hearts 5, Celtic and Hibs 2). Divided by 2 as qualification games only get half the points, then divided by 4 for the 4 teams. So Scotland has 1.875 points so far this season. It is the countries total that is the most important as this sets how many, and at what stage, clubs enter the tournaments ps no idea what happened to the quote as I didn't mean to quote anyone Edited July 25, 2016 by dipped flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, dipped flake said: Once again, co-efficient points are awarded for every point a club gains, it is just that the points go towards the countries total. So far Scottish clubs have gained 15 points in Europe (Aberdeen 6, Hearts 5, Celtic and Hibs 2). Divided by 2 as qualification games only get half the points, then divided by 4 for the 4 teams. So Scotland has 1.875 points so far this season. It is the countries total that is the most important as this sets how many, and at what stage, clubs enter the tournaments ps no idea what happened to the quote as I didn't mean to quote anyone So with everyone apart from The Famous being shit,we lose 4.125 points? Thats all wrong that.......... Good job were there though,racking up these points,seems like if it wasn't for us,our teams would be entering the 2016/17 competition in 2015/16. You can thank us later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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