Cove_Sheep Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This got discussed on the big thread, it'll be interesting to see the Record's stance if there's another referendum. I'm sure I read the Herald would back independence after a Brexit vote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I would still be wary Wouldnt trust them one inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This took me by surprise considering the money she pumped into a No vote. JK Rowling tweeted: ""Staunch opponent" implies I was pro-union no matter what, which was never the case. Many no voters will think again now."Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-says-second-independence-8272030#aIYaiQ0yHvKMFfvg.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Yeah, The Herald said that it would back independence if Scotland was dragged out of the EU against its will. It'll be interesting to see what view The Record takes. Undoubtedly, there will be choices to be made and sides to be chosen.....from Scotland's print media but also from many in the Labour party in Scotland. If I was Dugdale I'd be careful about already lining up on the side of Johnston and Farage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Never forget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I think the wording is important in the Record sub. ENGLISH votes drag SCOTLAND out of EU. Not rest of UK but English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 49 minutes ago, McDange said: Never forget I'll never forget my litre of free milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Rossy said: Yeah, The Herald said that it would back independence if Scotland was dragged out of the EU against its will. It'll be interesting to see what view The Record takes. Undoubtedly, there will be choices to be made and sides to be chosen.....from Scotland's print media but also from many in the Labour party in Scotland. If I was Dugdale I'd be careful about already lining up on the side of Johnston and Farage. Historically I'd always thought it difficult to imagine indep without a broad consensus including Labour and Daily Record. Historically meaning before the demise of newspapers and Labour making them less significant indicators. Obviously it would be possible without them. But it just feels more likely now - like going into the 1997 ref rather than the 1979 one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, exile said: Historically I'd always thought it difficult to imagine indep without a broad consensus including Labour and Daily Record. Historically meaning before the demise of newspapers and Labour making them less significant indicators. Obviously it would be possible without them. But it just feels more likely now - like going into the 1997 ref rather than the 1979 one. Much will depend on Labour in Scotland being able to overcome their long standing pathological hatred of the SNP. I'm not so sure that the initial comments from Dugdale suggest that they have. They seem determined to defend the Union, regardless of the any other circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 That rag stuffed us the last time. Beware of false friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Rossy said: Much will depend on Labour in Scotland being able to overcome their long standing pathological hatred of the SNP. I'm not so sure that the initial comments from Dugdale suggest that they have. They seem determined to defend the Union, regardless of the any other circumstances. This may be down to the incompetence of Dugdale more than anything else. As Brexit win was breaking overnight, Dugdale when asked about Brexit/indy said something like indeyref was totally different as it was to do with families or something like that, just parroting the 2014 mantra, not moving with the new reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rossy said: Much will depend on Labour in Scotland being able to overcome their long standing pathological hatred of the SNP. I'm not so sure that the initial comments from Dugdale suggest that they have. They seem determined to defend the Union, regardless of the any other circumstances. If Jackie Baillie and similar like minded people like her have their way, they won't. I honestly believe that lot would rather see us being brought to our knees by a rabid right wing Tory government than stand side by side with the SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, King Of Paisley said: If Jackie Baillie and similar like minded people like her have their way, they won't. I honestly believe that lot would rather see us being brought to our knees by a rabid right wing Tory government than stand side by side with the SNP. I agree. Labour lost sight of what they should be standing for years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Summary of world press reaction to Brexit/Scotland/indy http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14578502.World_Press_highlights_prospect_of_Scotland_staying_in_EU_as_independent_state/?ref=mrb&lp=9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary2 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 9 hours ago, McDange said: Never forget Still giving me sleepless nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 2 faced khunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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