Ally Bongo Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 2 hours ago, Cove_Sheep said: He's on holiday Thats what he told you. Maybe at this very moment he is working behind the scenes with Katy http://indyref2.scot/why-is-scottish-labours-civil-war-missing-from-the-bbc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: He resigned from that Rangers fan organisation he was a board member of just the other week What the feck were the folk in Central Ayrshire thinking voting for this eejit year in year oot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 What a lovely person ............. And that horrible voice she has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 14 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: If you fancy a cringe All credit to Angela though - more neck than a Giraffe I like her "Angela" logo though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Secret ballot at NEC. Looking like more and more possible that Corbyn will be removed from his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty's cakes Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: Secret ballot at NEC. Looking like more and more possible that Corbyn will be removed from his position. Looking more and more possible that Labour will be removed from the political landscape. Scottish Labour have missed a trick. They ought to have formed a breakaway party years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 A week is a long time in Scunnered 's Holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The propaganda campaign is in full swing. It's always funny when the sham that is democracy is revealed in small ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 So 60% of the membership backed Corbyn yet almost all the labour MP's want him dead. If they remove him they will face the unimaginable wrath of 60% of the people who voted for them. This has an unstoppable force meets immovable object feel to it all. Hard to see Labour staying together if they kill Corbyn. The membership and grass roots support will go one way and most of the current MP's will go another way and it will be a self inflicted massacre at the next GE. Who knows who will win in the resulting carnage but you'd have to think it will be the right wing big time. The left look weak and rubbish right now. So any old shite on the right that is semi competent will win landslide after landslide. The road to hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, phart said: The propaganda campaign is in full swing. It's always funny when the sham that is democracy is revealed in small ways. An absolute sham indeed. Just watching Eagle on the news talking about her smashes window and 'threats' and getting away concluding that the 'bullying has to stop - Jeremy has to go'. How the feck does someone get to attribute bullying to him in such a way and get away with it completely unchallenged and then have it as headline news. It bloody stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Who else is secretly hoping they leave him out of the contest ? Will there be enough popcorn ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 George Orwell would love this or think it beyond satire - A leader criticised simultaneously for being weak/inept, and being too powerful/controlling - Rebels attacking the leader and threatening to split the party... in the name of unity - Indecisive opportunistic backstabbers labelled 'courageous' - Both sides accusing the other of fighting each other instead of the Tories etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: An absolute sham indeed. Just watching Eagle on the news talking about her smashes window and 'threats' and getting away concluding that the 'bullying has to stop - Jeremy has to go'. How the feck does someone get to attribute bullying to him in such a way and get away with it completely unchallenged and then have it as headline news. It bloody stinks. Easy with a compliant/lazy media. I wouldn't put it past them to have put the window in themselves. Remember how at every European Championship and World Cup you'd get a story about some random English person being attacked in Scotland by person or persons unknown. Attacks that were all over the media but where there were no witnesses and no-one was ever charged let alone convicted. They work because most reasonable people believe that it's possible some nutter would do that. Funny that we haven't had any of these in either 2014 or 2016. I wonder why that might be, especially given that there's a much more heightened political atmosphere in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 43 minutes ago, thplinth said: So 60% of the membership backed Corbyn yet almost all the labour MP's want him dead. If they remove him they will face the unimaginable wrath of 60% of the people who voted for them. This has an unstoppable force meets immovable object feel to it all. Hard to see Labour staying together if they kill Corbyn. The membership and grass roots support will go one way and most of the current MP's will go another way and it will be a self inflicted massacre at the next GE. Who knows who will win in the resulting carnage but you'd have to think it will be the right wing big time. The left look weak and rubbish right now. So any old shite on the right that is semi competent will win landslide after landslide. The road to hell... Why would anyone who is not a Tory want the the right wing to win? Just check out ersatz's post on Angela the Eagle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 37 minutes ago, exile said: George Orwell would love this or think it beyond satire - A leader criticised simultaneously for being weak/inept, and being too powerful/controlling - Rebels attacking the leader and threatening to split the party... in the name of unity - Indecisive opportunistic backstabbers labelled 'courageous' - Both sides accusing the other of fighting each other instead of the Tories etc etc You can also add to that, a party that only stands in Scotland becoming the UK's only effective opposition party ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Robert Peston Verified account @Peston Hearing NEC to rule @jeremycorbyn has to get MP nominations. Throws Lab leadership wide open. @OwenSmith_MP bound to challenge @angelaeagle Edit - Peston talks shite Edited July 12, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36778135 They are so fecked. 80% Dustbyn second time around. He is like that guy riding the atom bomb. Edited July 12, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Corbyn on the ballot. Let's see who's got the bollocks to stand against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, thplinth said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36778135 They are so fecked. 80% Dustbyn second time around. He is like that guy riding the atom bomb. What the hell would please you? You hate corbyn, hate the Right. What do you want? You can be too cynical y'know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Jezza on the ballot. The PLP will go into meltdown, must get me some popcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 34 minutes ago, aaid said: Corbyn on the ballot. Let's see who's got the bollocks to stand against him. Exactly they all talked let's see who walks. There is a reason they tried to stop in being a voting option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, thplinth said: So 60% of the membership backed Corbyn yet almost all the labour MP's want him dead. If they remove him they will face the unimaginable wrath of 60% of the people who voted for them. This has an unstoppable force meets immovable object feel to it all. Hard to see Labour staying together if they kill Corbyn. The membership and grass roots support will go one way and most of the current MP's will go another way and it will be a self inflicted massacre at the next GE. Who knows who will win in the resulting carnage but you'd have to think it will be the right wing big time. The left look weak and rubbish right now. So any old shite on the right that is semi competent will win landslide after landslide. The road to hell... Re your first paragraph, not all Labour voters are Labour Party members. In fact most of them won't be. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 UK versions of Labour, Tories, LibDems no longer have a mandate in Scotland. John frae Banff on Kaye Adams and his ilk have to face that the UK political system has increasingly failed Scotland and is no longer viable in our country. If there was ever any doubt before the EU referendum, then it's all been removed now. Scotland owes it to her people to take full charge of its own governance. Anything less now would be irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 When does the leadership election / challenge or whatever labour are calling it take place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 1 hour ago, sjd1972 said: Jezza on the ballot. The PLP will go into meltdown, must get me some popcorn The NEC vote was only 18-14 in favour of Corbyn. No unity there. Looking forward to this scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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