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Seems that Labour are just going for a cash grab now that the coup has failed. 

 

The 129,000+ members that have joined since January (mainly to support Corbyn I would guess) aren't being permitted to vote unless they pay an additional £25. Making it up as they go along! It's laughable. 

 

No doubt this will put off some of the £3 members who were enticed in by the low membership fee but it will also cash in on some of the fervent support Corbyn has for those willing to pay £25 to back their man. It'll swell the coffers at least but to what end. 

 

Corbyn is bound to get back in with even more support now and the Blairites will continue to refuse to support him. 

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McTernan's interview is a thing of beauty

Absolutely raging which is pleasing

The Blairites will destroy the Labour party to get their way - there is nothing as sure

 

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19 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

McTernan's interview is a thing of beauty

Absolutely raging which is pleasing

The Blairites will destroy the Labour party to get their way - there is nothing as sure

 

Trade Unions have destroyed the Labour party? :blink: 

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Angela Eagle is blaming Corbyn supporters for the brick through the window, with no evidence whatsoever

now shamelessly pleading for entryists to join Labour to fight those...er... nasty entryists.

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1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said:

McTernan's interview is a thing of beauty

Absolutely raging which is pleasing

The Blairites will destroy the Labour party to get their way - there is nothing as sure

 

"Jeremy Corbyn was the principle factor behing the UK voting to leave EU referendum"

Talk about being a bad loser.

 

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Wow labour are totally out of control. Their gerrymandering is a disgrace.

It really comes down to the question of what is a party. Is it the MPs is it the members or is it a set of beliefs.

I am not convinced the parliamentary labour party want anything more than to keep their jobs. If they hate the leader and the membership then they should stand down or create a new party.

Amusingly they are all likely to get deselected now by their local parties. Far too many career politicians who have never had another job at the moment.

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8 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

A true 'unity' candidate would have said something like 'This act of violence has no place in politics, and I am sure JC would condemn it too.' So all of the 99% against bricks through windows could feel on the same side. Instead she sets out to smear Corbyn supporters, and by extension Corbyn. That is not the behaviour to win over Corbyn supporters, not the actions of a unity candidate, those are the actions of a partisan in an all out war.

The sense of loathing of Corbyn by McTernan is incredible - he almost sees him like some parasite, an alien political being who is dragging down the party to its terminal demise. He's almost talking as if Corbyn cannot hear him, almost as if he is not human, as if he is simply talking of something to be removed. And the utter conviction that Corbyn is bad, irredeemably so, that there is absolutely no quarter asked or given. Like a fight to the death.

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1 hour ago, Mee said:

Wow labour are totally out of control. Their gerrymandering is a disgrace.

It really comes down to the question of what is a party. Is it the MPs is it the members or is it a set of beliefs.

I am not convinced the parliamentary labour party want anything more than to keep their jobs. If they hate the leader and the membership then they should stand down or create a new party.

Amusingly they are all likely to get deselected now by their local parties. Far too many career politicians who have never had another job at the moment.

That would be the best thing in the long run.  I suspect a lot of MPs know they have burned their bridges with their constituency members and are shitting themselves now.  

In that sense, an early general election suddenly looks very appealing. :)

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1 hour ago, EddardStark said:

It a very loose grouping of  interests from left to centre left with little in common any more. 

True, though it could be argued this has always been the case even since Labour's early days. Left historians always point to  Labour's unique situation/history compared to other European socialist / social democratic parties....

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23 minutes ago, Mee said:

Labour NEC  member on channel 4 news just now on the cusp of tears at the threats she got before the vote yesterday.

Labour look terrible just now

Yeah, dont think Corbin is the cuddly socialist some make him out to be. I think hes a nasty piece of work.

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48 minutes ago, Mee said:

Labour NEC  member on channel 4 news just now on the cusp of tears at the threats she got before the vote yesterday.

Labour look terrible just now

I read that Johanna Baxter claimed Corbyn "tacitly endorsed bullying and intimidation of Labour staff by voting against the proposal for a secret ballot on Wednesday night".

That looks like extraordinary exaggeration. Like saying (say) that voting for airstrikes (or not) tacitly endorsed genocide (or appeasing genocide)

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1 hour ago, Mee said:

Labour NEC  member on channel 4 news just now on the cusp of tears at the threats she got before the vote yesterday.

Labour look terrible just now

Or perhaps it's just that the Blairites are madly panicking because their safe wee bubble has finally burst and they stand to lose absolutely everything?

Needless to say, if bullying or violence of any kind can be proven, then that's outrageous and the cops should be involved immediately.

As I've said before although I don't agree with all his politics, his interventions on Scotland in particular have been clumsy and ill-informed, but I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good man and he doesn't deserve this kind of shabby treatment he's currently getting.

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I have criticized Corbyn a fair bit but not for his character. I think he is a good man and very principled. Don't believe for a second he would endorse any nasty shit.

I now think he should see it out and drive for an early GE.

The alternative is some Blairite whank who will be a whank no matter and make no mistake they will be a whank. Labour are about 10 years away from government at this point and it is not Corbyn's fault it is Blair's and his supporters. They sold their soul to the devil for power and now the devil is banging the door down wanting his soul. This is not Corbyn's doing. It is Tony Blair's. They just expect Corbyn to hand over the deed to the devil without complaint and let them carry on being the kunts they are. Fukk em Jeremy, call their bluff and see it out. The whole thing is a mess now anyway and May will never call a GE or consent to an Indy Ref 2 or do the article 50 pish so really who cares for the next few years. It will just be her doing her best Thatcher imitation with her hair getting bigger and bigger and eviler and eviler. 

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2 hours ago, thplinth said:

I have criticized Corbyn a fair bit but not for his character. I think he is a good man and very principled. Don't believe for a second he would endorse any nasty shit.

I now think he should see it out and drive for an early GE.

The alternative is some Blairite whank who will be a whank no matter and make no mistake they will be a whank. Labour are about 10 years away from government at this point and it is not Corbyn's fault it is Blair's and his supporters. They sold their soul to the devil for power and now the devil is banging the door down wanting his soul. This is not Corbyn's doing. It is Tony Blair's. They just expect Corbyn to hand over the deed to the devil without complaint and let them carry on being the kunts they are. Fukk em Jeremy, call their bluff and see it out. The whole thing is a mess now anyway and May will never call a GE or consent to an Indy Ref 2 or do the article 50 pish so really who cares for the next few years. It will just be her doing her best Thatcher imitation with her hair getting bigger and bigger and eviler and eviler. 

The Blairites blaming Corbyn for the demise of the Labour Party is like the captain of the Titanic  blaming the iceberg.

The Blairites themselves are the problem and they simply cannot see it.

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Blairite Labour and the Tories have come to mean exactly the same thing.  All of them are self serving career politicians who pay no regard to the voters of any clan, creed, colour or race.  They are all too busy scrambling to the trough to give a single hoot to what matters to the working person, unemployed or disadvantaged.

I really despair about the thinking of the general UK voters who command such a majority in this Union.

Boris - Foreign Secretary - you simply could not make it up.

Lets get the fook out!

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