er yir macaroon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Until Scottish football re-arranges it's calendar these humiliating and financially devastating exits will continue. It's July and both Edinburgh clubs are out. What an utter shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Agreed. Congratulation Aberdeen FC. Doing Scottish Football proud since 1903. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 As long as our teams have to negotiate 4 rounds to get to the group stages I can't see much money being made from Europe no matter when in our season the games come... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Until Scottish football re-arranges it's calendar these humiliating and financially devastating exits will continue. It's July and both Edinburgh clubs are out. What an utter shambles. Hearts are out because they mistakenly thought a 0-0 draw away from home was a good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Until Scottish football re-arranges it's calendar these humiliating and financially devastating exits will continue. It's July and both Edinburgh clubs are out. What an utter shambles. Aye, a lower division team getting knocked out on pens after winning in Denmark is a real shambles... Drama queen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said: Aye, a lower division team getting knocked out on pens after winning in Denmark is a real shambles... Drama queen... The reality is that yet again there's a real danger that one team will be left in Europe past mid August and that could be thanks to a back door entry. Hopefully this won't be the reality but I wouldn't bet against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rossy said: Hearts are out because they mistakenly thought a 0-0 draw away from home was a good result. Aye, in a nutshell, that ingrained mentality is what has been keeping us back for ages. "Ach, a draw away fae home is not bad at all.." It's unreal the amount of managers, players, journalists and even some of the fans still genuinely believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbrew Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 out (Hearts result tonight one of most humiliating ever for a Scottish club and may have cost them a lot of money though they`d probably have lost in Russia and lost money on trip, Hibs pride intact but Hertha Berlin would have generated massive gate and especially TV revenue) and 2 through (Celtic after himiliation in Gibraltar and Aberdeen after being lucky to get to second round). Reality is there are no easy games and sadly clubs and countries probably consider Scottish opposition as a good draw. Anyway, not sure how ranking system works but presume wins by Hearts in last round and Hibs tonight (counts as victory I suppose) will help for future years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, ironbrew said: Aberdeen after being lucky to get to second round Lucky as in pumped them at home, and then contained them away but they scored on the break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, deecie said: Lucky as in pumped them at home, and then contained them away but they scored on the break? Aye same as Celtic's progression... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 38 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said: Aye, a lower division team getting knocked out on pens after winning in Denmark is a real shambles... Drama queen... if Hibs were mid-season they'd be in the next round. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faircity Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: if Hibs were mid-season they'd be in the next round. Simple as that. Whys that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Hearts went out to a team who took West Ham to penalties last year Hibs went out as we shouldnt let lower league teams play in europe(how super is Mcginn ?) Hoofberdeen will follow shortly Goodnight from Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faircity Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, Brassrubber said: Hearts went out to a team who took West Ham to penalties last year Hibs went out as we shouldnt let lower league teams play in europe(how super is Mcginn ?) Hoofberdeen will follow shortly Goodnight from Spain Watch no droon in that particularly acrid pish of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 11 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Until Scottish football re-arranges it's calendar these humiliating and financially devastating exits will continue. It's July and both Edinburgh clubs are out. What an utter shambles. Sorry it has nothing to do with the time of year..........it is down to ability and that is lacking at all levels in our game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Hungary, Romania, Poland, Sweden, Slovakia, Albania, Iceland, Wales, Ireland and Northern Ireland, all played at Euro 2016, and all lost teams in the Europa League qualifiers last night. Some of these teams even play right through the summer. The fact is the early rounds in Europe stopped being a cakewalk decades ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, teecee- said: Sorry it has nothing to do with the time of year..........it is down to ability and that is lacking at all levels in our game. partially true, but to play these games before the league even starts is crazy and rectifiable. The Hibs of October would take 4 off the non-match sharp Hibs of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: partially true, but to play these games before the league even starts is crazy and rectifiable. The Hibs of October would take 4 off the non-match sharp Hibs of today. Luxembourg league starts early August, Malta resume later the same month. We need to stop making excuses, we are poor despite having great attendances for a country our size. Rank rotten and descending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, teecee- said: Sorry it has nothing to do with the time of year..........it is down to ability and that is lacking at all levels in our game. It does have something to do with it. At Tynecastle last night you could see several of the players weren't match sharp, and one or two of the players (notably the left back and Sammon up front) were still getting used to playing together. Lack of ability (player and manager) is a bigger factor I wouldn't argue there, but it is wrong and simplistic to dismiss the issue of these effectively being pre-season games for Scottish clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I can only assume teams 10+ games into their seasons are comfortably through to the next round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, dandydunn said: I can only assume teams 10+ games into their seasons are comfortably through to the next round? Yes. Ventspilis went marching through. Oh, wait... But don't you realise that a team finishing 3rd in our 2nd tier should be knocking out the team who finished 4th in the Danish Superliga regardless? Edited July 22, 2016 by Cove_Sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Cove_Sheep said: Yes. Ventspilis went marching through. Oh, wait... But don't you realise that a team finishing 3rd in our 2nd tier should be knocking out the team who finished 4th in the Danish Superliga regardless? Shouldn't underestimate how good a result the 3rd best team in our 2nd division going to Denmark and getting a 1-0 win is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Neil Lennon "They were running on fumes in the end but they showed tremendous character to see the game out." As I say, shambolic planning. Their most important game of the season and they're dead on their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest faircity Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 6 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Neil Lennon "They were running on fumes in the end but they showed tremendous character to see the game out." As I say, shambolic planning. Their most important game of the season and they're dead on their feet. How far do you think the Danes are into their season like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, faircity said: How far do you think the Danes are into their season like? The gap between seasons ending and starting is short due to their long winter break Last game of 2015-2016 in the Danish Superleague was 29/05/2016 and they play friendlies in the 4 weeks or so before it restarts Edited July 22, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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