thplinth Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) WTF happened to the quote. feck Edited September 1, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 17 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: I see no viable reason why he shouldn't start. 18 hours ago, runningtings said: Aye, I'd hope he's in the first XI to be honest. We need to be as attacking as possible for this one. He plays the same position as Snodgrass, so that could keep him out the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 52 minutes ago, davew said: He plays the same position as Snodgrass, so that could keep him out the team. Not if you play Snodgrass in the middle, which is arguably where he's more effective for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Burke on the right,Snoddy in the middle is surely a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) Burke and Snodgrass are probably the two form players in the squad. No other team with the sort of resources we have would consider leaving either of them out. Strachan and McGhee are probably humming and hawing, looking at playing one up front, packing the midfield, using a defender as a holding midfielder etc. This isn't a great squad of players by any means, but competently managed it contains more than enough ability to comfortably beat Malta. And yet this morning, before the start of another qualifying campaign, the talk is of what happens if we lose, and many (myself included) would be happy with an ugly 1-0 win. I really do think it should be better than this. Edited September 2, 2016 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, Bannannan said: Burke on the right,Snoddy in the middle is surely a must. Definitely. Snodgrass doesn't have the pace for a wide role anyway. I'm hoping Burke will displace Ritchie on the right, and he lacks the talent of Snodgrass for the number 10 role, albeit he can shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 16 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Snodgrass doesn't have the pace for a wide role anyway He's done alright in his career so far... I think you overvalue pace, much like many folk do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 57 minutes ago, Pool Q said: Burke and Snodgrass are probably the two form players in the squad. No other team with the sort of resources we have would consider leaving either of them out. Strachan and McGhee are probably humming and hawing, looking at playing one up front, packing the midfield, using a defender as a holding midfielder etc. This isn't a great squad of players by any means, but competently managed it contains more than enough ability to comfortably beat Malta. And yet this morning, before the start of another qualifying campaign, the talk is of what happens if we lose, and many (myself included) would be happy with an ugly 1-0 win. I really do think it should be better than this. Nail on the head. Paterson should start instead of Hutton. Burke should be one of the first names on the teamsheet. Will either of them start? Highly unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Paper talk this morning seems to suggest Watt may start, which I suspect may be Strachan and McGhee throwing up a bit of a smokescreen. Or maybe I'm just hoping that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Bannannan said: Burke on the right,Snoddy in the middle is surely a must. The real competition for his position is James Forrest who has been playing for Keltic on the right recently; if he starts I hope he has his usual crap game so he can be hooked for Burke at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Pool Q said: Paper talk this morning seems to suggest Watt may start, which I suspect may be Strachan and McGhee throwing up a bit of a smokescreen. Or maybe I'm just hoping that. Not in the initial squad but thrown right in to the team. Yet another Levein parallel. Is it possible that Strachan is just trolling me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: The real competition for his position is James Forrest who has been playing for Keltic on the right recently; if he starts I hope he has his usual crap game so he can be hooked for Burke at half time. Interesting. If Forrest starts, and you have a point he could do so on the right, I hope he runs the Maltese side ragged, rattles in a first-half hat-trick, gets a couple more in the second-half, and then goes off to a standing ovation from the Scotland fans with 10 minutes left. But that's probably just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 54 minutes ago, Parklife said: He's done alright in his career so far... I think you overvalue pace, much like many folk do. No complaints on his performances from me, but he'd be playing for Man Utd or the like if he had pace. On technical ability he's as good as anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On form and who is getting first team football then our starting line-up would vary from what the fans want to what it would be. Players such as Craig Gordon, Callum Patterson, Andrew Robertson, Christophe Berra, Gordon Greer, Matt Ritchie, Jamie Forrest, Darren Fletcher, Oliver Burke, Robert Snodgrass and Tony Watt would make up the starting line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On form Craig Gordon would barely make the squad. There has been a remarkable turnaround at goal keeper, it seems like only five minutes ago that Gordon, McGregor and Marshall were all playing well and every week. Marshall is first choice at the moment, hopefully he can quickly establish himself at Hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Pool Q said: On form Craig Gordon would barely make the squad. There has been a remarkable turnaround at goal keeper, it seems like only five minutes ago that Gordon, McGregor and Marshall were all playing well and every week. Marshall is first choice at the moment, hopefully he can quickly establish himself at Hull. Marshall hasn't started a match this season has he? Gordon has been a virtual regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: Marshall hasn't started a match this season has he? Gordon has been a virtual regular. On Marshall I don't know, don't really follow the English Championship, hopefully he'll get established quickly at Hull now. Gordon had been a regular for Celtic but has (and it gives me no pleasure to say this) poor in most games, and has now been dropped. Marshall is the 'man in possession' and I'd be very surprised if he didn't start. My point is that none of them could really be said to be in top form at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, Pool Q said: On Marshall I don't know, don't really follow the English Championship, hopefully he'll get established quickly at Hull now. Gordon had been a regular for Celtic but has (and it gives me no pleasure to say this) poor in most games, and has now been dropped. Marshall is the 'man in possession' and I'd be very surprised if he didn't start. My point is that none of them could really be said to be in top form at the moment. But that is the crux of our problem right now. Key players not in form or out of favour with their clubs sums up where we (Scotland) are just now, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabtheBruce Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Marshall has been playing for Cardiff this season. He didn't play at the weekend as he was on the verge of moving to Hull. Marshall will start on Sunday and I think that's the correct decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I mean we could quite easily line-up on Sunday with perhaps 75% of the team not getting regular first team football for their club. That will be the case if Hutton, Hanley, Martin, Anya, Morrison, Marshall, Gordon or S. Fletcher play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 17 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: But that is the crux of our problem right now. Key players not in form or out of favour with their clubs sums up where we (Scotland) are just now, sadly. I'd say the crux of our problem is a lack of key players and any real quality, coupled with poor squad selections which result in our team not being as strong as it should be. In addition to this some players selected are not even back up choices in their position at their club. Depressing times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) I agree and disagree ProudScot. Agree about lack of key players and real quality (at international class level anyway) but don't buy the poor squad selection bit as these are the best of a bad bunch. Those not in squads have either had their chances and failed to shine or if not selected before if they were a big portion of us would be asking why they are in the squad or that they don't merit it. In short there are no hidden away Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness or James McFadden-types out there to select. Edited September 2, 2016 by Caledonian Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Between the full squad and u21s I'm optimistic we will have quality in the near future. Cue thumping defeat tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Between the full squad and u21s I'm optimistic we will have quality in the near future. Cue thumping defeat tonight... Well that stupid fud Spragia is in charge .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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