Gambling Adverts

[ParisInAKilt]

Just me or have they really increased on TV over the years?

[Toepoke]

5 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said:

Just me or have they really increased on TV over the years?

It's absolutely ridiculous now. It's be interesting to see the impact on young viewers...

[macy37]

10 minutes ago, Toepoke said:

It's absolutely ridiculous now. It's be interesting to see the impact on young viewers...

Never mind youngsters I'm gambling more than ever now. No more than £20 a week as I'm tight but 5 years ago be lucky if I did that a month. 

Apps have a huge part in this.

[morrie21]

Correct.  Was some sort of legislation against it but when that was lifted the advertising started (sometime around mid2000s if I remember correctly) It has now got to saturation levels though as in my opinion there is too much of it now on TV. 

[morrie21]

It'll go the way of fags and booze eventually in that the advertising of it will get heavily restricted or banned but how long this takes is anyone's guess

[ParisInAKilt]

First time I've watched TV here in a year and it was ridiculous how many of them there was, especially betable and bet 365. 

[teecee-]

Good hobby, love it. Gamble on just about everything except Bingo and The Lottery.

If adverts encourage others to enjoy and participate then keep them coming.

[jockodile]

In NSW before and during pretty much any football, afl or rugby league match you get the odds and website of a place where to gamble with the standard 'please gamble responsible etc'

Its really noticeable in rugby after a try and conversion at start of a game for an unfancied side. Its like they cant wait to tell you how odds have changed.

 

[teecee-]

32 minutes ago, jockodile said:

In NSW before and during pretty much any football, afl or rugby league match you get the odds and website of a place where to gamble with the standard 'please gamble responsible etc'

Its really noticeable in rugby after a try and conversion at start of a game for an unfancied side. Its like they cant wait to tell you how odds have changed.

 

To be expected from the worlds biggest gambling nation.

I believe you can even sit in the boozers and place bets?

[Regenmann]

1 hour ago, teecee- said:

To be expected from the worlds biggest gambling nation.

I believe you can even sit in the boozers and place bets?

They've converted the lounge of the Thistle in Ballieston into a Paddy Power - there's a direct connecting door between the bar and PP. 

Don't see a problem with gambling adverts - even though my profit and loss account is very much in the red I enjoy a wee flutter - you need to be over 18 to place a bet, which is old enough to make your own decisions. 

[iainmac1]

I'm not too bad now but when I  was at uni I would often come home after drinking and play poker or gamble on anything that was on. Losing £100 on second division Uruguayan basketball was a real high point!

Often thought this must happen a lot when people have been drinking. A good idea to help stop this would be for the gambling sites to go offline from say 10pm-8am. Obviously there will be people drinking and gambling without thinking as clearly at other times of the day but it would surely help with a lot of people. 

Edited September 4, 2016 by iainmac1

[deecie]

10 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said:

Just me or have they really increased on TV over the years?

I don't think you've increased on TV at all.

38 minutes ago, iainmac1 said:

Often thought this must happen a lot when people have been drinking. A good idea to help stop this would be for the gambling sites to go offline from say 10pm-8am. Obviously there will be people drinking and gambling without thinking as clearly at other times of the day but it would surely help with a lot of people. 

Pointless. You could get round it by using a site in a different timezone.

[euan2020]

without being too rude 

always thought gamblings a mugs game unless you have information that bookies are not privy to, or have experience in

ie the Hole in One @ golf where the bookies got fleeced 

or if your uncle is a service technician for a slot machine company, and know's the sequence's that will generate pay out  

[Regenmann]

36 minutes ago, euan2020 said:

without being too rude 

always thought gamblings a mugs game unless you have information that bookies are not privy to, or have experience in

ie the Hole in One @ golf where the bookies got fleeced 

or if your uncle is a service technician for a slot machine company, and know's the sequence's that will generate pay out  

Not if you don't bet more than can afford to lose and you derive enjoyment from it. I'm a recreational punter and don't have high expectations - probably lose couple a hundred a month but then folk spend more than that on other hobbies.

[euan2020]

this just suddenly reminded me of 1 of our customers, 20 years ago, when I worked in RBS

He was "professional gambler" or say he said he was 

Burned through GBP 150K in around 6-8 weeks with his switch card

 

[Pool Q]

5 hours ago, Regenmann said:

They've converted the lounge of the Thistle in Ballieston into a Paddy Power - there's a direct connecting door between the bar and PP. 

Didn't think they could do that. There are any number of bookies around the place that pretty clearly exist just to cater for the boozer a door or do up the street but I thought they had to be distinct and separate premises. I've been in a couple of pubs on a Saturday afternoon where the staff from the bookies come in with fixed odds coupons, not sure how common that is. There used to be a bookies next door to the Diggers in Edinburgh that was basically just a room of the ground floor flat with a door into it off the street. I tried to place a bet on a Scotland rugby match in there on a Saturday morning once and the bloke working there looked at me like I was talking Swahili - 'We only really dae fitba' and the horses!' Been gone for years now.

Been a while since I was in Australia, but the old-fashioned pubs there use to be great big places (often with several pool tables), with one whole side dedicated to fruit machines, two to TVs showing just about every sport going, a long bar and a bookies counter in the corner.

Edited September 4, 2016 by Pool Q

[EddardStark]

Gambling and pay day loans adverts seem to feature a lot when sports are on TV. No coincidence.

[phart]

4 hours ago, euan2020 said:

without being too rude 

always thought gamblings a mugs game unless you have information that bookies are not privy to, or have experience in

ie the Hole in One @ golf where the bookies got fleeced 

or if your uncle is a service technician for a slot machine company, and know's the sequence's that will generate pay out  

I "gamble" on MMA, not every event but sometimes the prices are way out. Maybe once a month.

For instance I got 6/1 on Werdum to submit Cain Valesquez, the fight was at high altitude and Werdum had went out 8 weeks early to acclimatise and Cain turned up the week of, tired after a round and easy money.

Only got one punt wrong, when i put money on Aldo to KO Macgregor.

Although the first time i did it, i ended up betting on live basketball and lost my winnings.

 

[thplinth]

I went and had a look at how bookies make money after the brexit odds versus reality / result.

It seems to be something like if you have five outcomes with probability each of 0.2 (i.e. 0.2 x 5 outcomes = 1 or 100%) the bookies will make their money by offering odds of say 0.15 per outcome each so the total odds add up to less than 1 (or 100%) in this case 0.15 X 5 = .75 or 75%. So if everyone bets their pound and everything comes out as expected they end up with 25%. It is clever shit.

 

 

Edited September 4, 2016 by thplinth

[thplinth]

edit: what amazes me though (and folk who gamble joke about it on here) is that if you do start to do well and win a bit back they will just close your account. Like how they ban winners from casinos. It is so rigged against you. I prefer to lose money on the markets where I have convinced myself it is 'fairer'.

oops game on.

[Stapes]

I have a real issue with gambling generally. I've never gambled personally, but the level of money I see people losing stuns me (I have a family member who has spent pretty much every penny he's ever earned in a bookies (and the pub) for the past 20 years). The gambling ads on TV and on football shirts is having a massive negative impact on society generally, but also on today's kids. They'll see it as the norm to hit the bookies, and once the addiction kicks in ...

When I was a councillor we discussed with officers the possibility of limiting bookies in the town and were told that, unlike pubs or restaurants, there is no over-provision for bookmakers. As such they can open up shop after shop and nobody can do a thing. And that's what they started to do, primarily because the big payout bandits were limited to, IIRC, two per shop. They were opening shops just around the corner from another shop, just to get two more machines in the town. Legally they had every right to do so. Morally repugnant. Utter parasites.

[they've_been_suckered]

On 4 September 2016 at 8:07 PM, Stapes said:

I have a real issue with gambling generally. I've never gambled personally, but the level of money I see people losing stuns me (I have a family member who has spent pretty much every penny he's ever earned in a bookies (and the pub) for the past 20 years). The gambling ads on TV and on football shirts is having a massive negative impact on society generally, but also on today's kids. They'll see it as the norm to hit the bookies, and once the addiction kicks in ...

When I was a councillor we discussed with officers the possibility of limiting bookies in the town and were told that, unlike pubs or restaurants, there is no over-provision for bookmakers. As such they can open up shop after shop and nobody can do a thing. And that's what they started to do, primarily because the big payout bandits were limited to, IIRC, two per shop. They were opening shops just around the corner from another shop, just to get two more machines in the town. Legally they had every right to do so. Morally repugnant. Utter parasites.

The more I look at the gambling habits of my friends, the more concerned I get these days. It's become a real hook and a 'go to' topic of conversation. 

I bet occasionally, but it is never a requirement and it's normally a couple of quid. I just don't get it how people can get sucked in by it all.

[JECK]

5 hours ago, they've_been_suckered said:

The more I look at the gambling habits of my friends, the more concerned I get these days. It's become a real hook and a 'go to' topic of conversation. 

I bet occasionally, but it is never a requirement and it's normally a couple of quid. I just don't get it how people can get sucked in by it all.

Totally agree. The level of interest has gone up massively in the last 5 years or more. Work mates discussing it then your mates in the pub, a couple of which are totally hooked but probably wouldn't admit it. Watched the Liverpool man city cup final this year at my Dads as he had been given free sky telly for a month and as he rarely watches live fitbaw these days he couldn't get over all the betting adverts pre game, half time etc

I was putting on a tenner a week for ages till I realised I was struggling not to. Jacked the ftbaw betting at the start of the year and decided I'll only bet in Cheltenham week which I really enjoy and then the GN. Never been into the sprints, total waste of time in my opinion.

[they've_been_suckered]

2 hours ago, JECK said:

Totally agree. The level of interest has gone up massively in the last 5 years or more. Work mates discussing it then your mates in the pub, a couple of which are totally hooked but probably wouldn't admit it. Watched the Liverpool man city cup final this year at my Dads as he had been given free sky telly for a month and as he rarely watches live fitbaw these days he couldn't get over all the betting adverts pre game, half time etc

I was putting on a tenner a week for ages till I realised I was struggling not to. Jacked the ftbaw betting at the start of the year and decided I'll only bet in Cheltenham week which I really enjoy and then the GN. Never been into the sprints, total waste of time in my opinion.

It's normally when i see someone post a big win that I question their habits and amount that they'll be putting down. 

I was the same for a while, started off at £5 then went £10 a week or so when the deposit limit got upped on the internet betting. I ended up putting a tenner in a rainy day jar for the best part of a year. The only way you'll make money out of it

[Parklife]

I enjoy a bet. Always have. Great way to spend a few quid.