borojock Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Last night we really needed to do better to stop the crosses coming in. We need to be stronger at the sides of the 2 centre backs as well as in front. The 4 guys I'd have in my squad would be Martin, Mulgrew, Hanley and Berra. Sadly I don't think theres anything else out there the nearest thing is Cooper at Leeds and he doesn't fill me with much confidence. We really need a defensive expert coach to work with these guys to try and make them better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison1982 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Fletcher was steady and competent last night in midfield. Centre half would be a bad idea. Fletcher played there a couple of times 6-7 years ago (when he was a much better player, before his illness) for Man Utd when they had some injury crisis. Michael Carrick also filled in there. TBH they were both pretty hopeless at centre half, they lost 3-0 at Fulham during that period. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8414926.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, borojock said: Last night we really needed to do better to stop the crosses coming in. We need to be stronger at the sides of the 2 centre backs as well as in front. The 4 guys I'd have in my squad would be Martin, Mulgrew, Hanley and Berra. Sadly I don't think theres anything else out there the nearest thing is Cooper at Leeds and he doesn't fill me with much confidence. We really need a defensive expert coach to work with these guys to try and make them better Agree totally about the defensive coach, suggested the same thing a while back. Strachan was an attacking midfielder, McGhee was a forward. Who have we got to drill the defence? Aren't they going to bring in someone to teplace McCall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 A back 5 at Wembley with 3 centre backs for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, McDange said: A back 5 at Wembley with 3 centre backs for me. Maybe if we'd tried it out in a friendly or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 7 hours ago, LewisEDI said: t if whittaker and hutton are back playing regularly i would put them back in for the wembley game, robertson and paterson getting run at by the likes of walcott and sterling on that big pitch could be a disaster I was at Wembly last time and Walcott destroyed Whittaker by running at and behind him. It was their main outlet and what won them the game. The idea of going back to Whittaker thru some belief that he's steady is.. err.. very misguided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, McDange said: A back 5 at Wembley with 3 centre backs for me. Agree on this I would be aiming for a draw in both England games, im being realistic rather than pessimistic and if we can achieve that then that could be 2 more points that Slovakia or Slovenia get which could make all the difference. I'd be thing about a back three of Mulgrew, Berra and Hanley with Martin at RB and Tierney at LB and a central midfield of Fletch and McArthur We need to give the defense some cover and support in those England games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Webster shud come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, The Black Bra said: Aren't they going to bring in someone to teplace McCall? Andy Watson joined the coaching staff to replace McCall.. around.. 2 months ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, andyD said: Andy Watson joined the coaching staff to replace McCall.. around.. 2 months ago now. Oh yeah, forgot about him. Still think it wouldn't hurt to get someone with a defensive background in to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, The Black Bra said: Strachan was an attacking midfielder, McGhee was a forward. Who have we got to drill the defence? Alex Ferguson, Jim McLean, Brian Clough, all strikers who could organise a defence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Alex Ferguson, Jim McLean, Brian Clough, all strikers who could organise a defence... Exactly. Always cracks me up that people assume that someone who was a midfielder or a forward cannot coach and set up a defence and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 For me, it was the only negative of an otherwise excellent evening that Hanley and Martin looked so ropey. They are however our best combination at centre back so all we can hope is that the two of them get some game time between now and Lithuania. Cooper and Souttar could maybe do with a call up just to get them in and around the squad during the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I'm sure Martin and Hanley are no worse than last season, they just need games. For England we need pace on the flanks to limit their overlaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: Alex Ferguson, Jim McLean, Brian Clough, all strikers who could organise a defence... Fair point.... but they did have the likes of Narey,Gough,Miller,McLeish,Malpas,etc. to pick from. And they worked with them every week of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Good to see that Jordan McGhee is playing as a centre back for Middlesbrough's U23 team. Hopefully he'll get a first team chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 22 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Good to see that Jordan McGhee is playing as a centre back for Middlesbrough's U23 team. Hopefully he'll get a first team chance. He's got a lot to learn, maybe this is the way forward for him. He was never able to hold down a regular place at Hearts but did look to have potential all the same. Worryingly he and John Souttar (ludicrously talked up on the BBC last week) were the CB pairing for the U21s against Ukraine in the 4-0 skelping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Souter and McGee are not the answer. 5-4-1 at Wembley marshall Patterson Martin Hanley Berra Robertson Fletcher Mcarthur Snodgrass Ritchie Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 40 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Souter and McGee are not the answer. 5-4-1 at Wembley marshall Patterson Martin Hanley Berra Robertson Fletcher Mcarthur Snodgrass Ritchie Naismith Naismith is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 47 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Souter and McGee are not the answer. 5-4-1 at Wembley marshall Patterson Martin Hanley Berra Robertson Fletcher Mcarthur Snodgrass Ritchie Naismith If that's the team I want my money back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 On 05/09/2016 at 11:12 AM, faircity said: Ive said it before, while steven anderson at saints is limited, he is far more dependable than hanley. He heads and boots the ball the way he is facing, nothing fancy, but it does the job. What if hes facing his own goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 12 hours ago, Kirk said: What if hes facing his own goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 14 hours ago, Kirk said: What if hes facing his own goal? have you seen his goal yesterday?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Gary Cahill is every bit as bad as our central defenders.Looking forward to one on ones with Burke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Pity Alex Miller isn't about to sort out the defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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