Squirrelhumper Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Given on what we've seen so far I'd agree however we can play a lot better than we have done to this point. I reckon 3rd - 4th is a realistic aim this season. Massive failure then. Warburton starting to get found out as a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I am starting to side with the view that he is out of his depth, however, he is certainly not a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think fraud is a bit harsh! He's never exactly claimed he is Guardiola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just now, Fairbairn said: I think fraud is a bit harsh! He's never exactly claimed he is Guardiola. A bit harsh? Its simply not true, using either meaning of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'd agree, 'fraud' is totally unfair. I was impressed by how quickly he turned Rangers round last season. Even if that probably wasn't the most difficult job in the world given the resources at his disposal in the Championship, he had inherited a shambles. And he previously did a pretty good job at Brentford, before having the rug pulled from under his feet by the owners. People do have a point re his signings in the summer though. Hardly any of them seem to have worked out at this stage, and the Barton one really calls his judgement into question. No hindsight involved, that was always a bad idea. The score line flattered Rangers a bit yesterday, and Celtic made heavy weather of a game they should have won comfortably. Gilks did well (if you ignore almost gifting a goal to the opposition), and I thought Hill, Wallace, Holt and Tavernier did OK too. Keirnan is a carthorse (saw that in the Scottish Cup final) and Halliday had his limitations exposed repeatedly by better midfielders who drew him in and turned him far too easily. Headless chicken. Speaking of which Kenny Miller ran about a lot, moaned, then ran about again - none of it to any real effect. McKay was poor, but I've seen him play a lot better. Dodoo just didn't fancy it when he came on. The likes of Hodson and Windass are journeymen even at this level, but I guess at least wont be costing as much as some of the 'names' Warburton brought in. Rangers haven't been impressive in the league so far this season, but they have a squad that will compete with Hearts and St Johnston for third. Whether that is good enough considering the wage bill, time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 22 hours ago, sbcmfc said: I presume the 11year old was a rangers fan? Yes. Didn't mention it on purpose to stop it becoming a game of "whataboutary" https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/24/bottle-attack-11-year-old-old-firm-rangers-celtic-abhorrent Be interesting to see if the catch the guy. The guy that bottled the 10 year old last time got away with it- because none of the Celtic fans that witnessed it would give a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 21 hours ago, BlueGaz said: I am starting to side with the view that he is out of his depth, however, he is certainly not a fraud. 21 hours ago, Fairbairn said: I think fraud is a bit harsh! He's never exactly claimed he is Guardiola. he does come out with some corkers though. The gap is closing. really? not from what I witnessed on the telly on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 17 hours ago, Stu101 said: Yes. Didn't mention it on purpose to stop it becoming a game of "whataboutary" https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/24/bottle-attack-11-year-old-old-firm-rangers-celtic-abhorrent Be interesting to see if the catch the guy. The guy that bottled the 10 year old last time got away with it- because none of the Celtic fans that witnessed it would give a statement. lets hope to god they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, ShedTA said: he does come out with some corkers though. The gap is closing. really? not from what I witnessed on the telly on sunday. Rangers should concentrate on closing the gap with St Johnstone, then Hearts, then Aberdeen before worrying about Celtic. Will be interesting to see how the Rangers vs St Johnstone game goes tomorrow night, after the absolute shagging St Johnstone gave them at Ibrox last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Agreed, one step at a time. I am not hopeful of tomorrow night - will be delighted with a point or three. Edit: I am currently not hopeful going in to any game. I think we are capable of beating everyone but celtic, but, we are also capable of losing to everyone such is the squad/tactics at the moment. Edited October 25, 2016 by BlueGaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 37 minutes ago, ShedTA said: he does come out with some corkers though. The gap is closing. really? not from what I witnessed on the telly on sunday. That's just manager talk though isn't it. Managers do that kind of thing up and down the country, it's not unique to Warburton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: That's just manager talk though isn't it. Managers do that kind of thing up and down the country, it's not unique to Warburton. not really FB. not at that level. but I guess he is under pressure to make the picture rosier than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, Parklife said: Rangers should concentrate on closing the gap with St Johnstone, then Hearts, then Aberdeen before worrying about Celtic. Will be interesting to see how the Rangers vs St Johnstone game goes tomorrow night, after the absolute shagging St Johnstone gave them at Ibrox last season. very good odds on saints considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, ShedTA said: very good odds on saints considering. Rangers were favourites for the game last year when St Johnstone humped them. It'll be interesting to see how the game goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Parklife said: Rangers were favourites for the game last year when St Johnstone humped them. It'll be interesting to see how the game goes. it will - referencing the comments above, this will be a fairer reflection of "the gap". any manager in the SPFL who thinks they are closing the gap on celtic at the moment is having a laugh. one or two will give them a game, the rest are just hoping they have an off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1-0 Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 hours ago, Parklife said: Rangers were favourites for the game last year when St Johnstone humped them. It'll be interesting to see how the game goes. We've just beaten the under 20 Huns so hopefully the big team follow up on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ormond said: We've just beaten the under 20 Huns so hopefully the big team follow up on that. Not sure how much you can take from that. Ross County top with Thistle 2nd in the development league. It was two horrendous first teams to watch at the weekend there. The u20s do look good on the highlights though and some cracking players almost breaking through to the first team. Makes good reading http://spfl.co.uk/development-league/ Edited October 25, 2016 by OLAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 hours ago, ShedTA said: it will - referencing the comments above, this will be a fairer reflection of "the gap". any manager in the SPFL who thinks they are closing the gap on celtic at the moment is having a laugh. one or two will give them a game, the rest are just hoping they have an off day. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Parklife said: Rangers were favourites for the game last year when St Johnstone humped them. It'll be interesting to see how the game goes. Don't think you can put too much emphasis on that - surly thats based on the amount of money being placed (and its probably not a big enough game to attract a mass of money from outside the fans of both teams). Aye, think it will be a good game. If you were a betting man, really good odds for St Johnstone first goal and win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 hours ago, ShedTA said: he does come out with some corkers though. The gap is closing. really? not from what I witnessed on the telly on sunday. WTF do you expect him to say? Something like "We are still pretty shyte and are nowhere near being able to compete at this level"? I am fairly sure he has no interest in getting the Scotland job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Big game tomorrow night for Rangers. We need to win if we have any hope of a European finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, GRBear said: Big game tomorrow night for Rangers. We need to win if we have any hope of a European finish. Win your next 2 games and you could go up to 2nd place. The sheep wont be happy about that, especially the ones that have already written you off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Orraloon said: Win your next 2 games and you could go up to 2nd place. The sheep wont be happy about that, especially the ones that have already written you off. Just been talking about this. Rangers have been on the whole woeful this season and rightly deserve most of the criticism they have got this year, but if we win tonight, and hearts don't win, we can go joint 2nd on points. Bizarre scenario in my opinion. Having said that, I fancy St J tonight so still a few ifs and buts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 35 minutes ago, BlueGaz said: Just been talking about this. Rangers have been on the whole woeful this season and rightly deserve most of the criticism they have got this year, but if we win tonight, and hearts don't win, we can go joint 2nd on points. Bizarre scenario in my opinion. Having said that, I fancy St J tonight so still a few ifs and buts. This is just the nature of the premiership out with Celtic, there isn't much between the rest of the league. Instead of calling it competitive we call it shite. It's bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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