jamboman Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I agree that it is not Martin's fault he was picked. Its down to the manager. We played a target man against 2 strong defenders, why would we not use someone who can run into space, ie griffiths. Even Fletcher makes better runs than Martin. Again not his fault, its down to the manager. Griffiths has to start up front Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Awful player for international level. clesrly a different system had to be played last night - what a fu*k up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 After Strachan talked about how good he was, it will be hard to drop him now. I bet he will start on Tuesday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, jamboman said: Griffiths has to start up front Tuesday In a game we cannot afford to lose with our manager in defiance mode ? Unlikely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 What is the deal with GS and griffiths? Even when he gives him a chance it is a non chance too late in the game in a formation that typically has not been working all game (hence his 'chance'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 He was 'outstanding' according to Strachan. The madness continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Rossy said: He was 'outstanding' according to Strachan. The madness continues. To be fair, he does tend to "stand out" every time I see him playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The fecker will probably only go and start scoring for Fulham now after the international break ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 When Strachan spoke about him at the press conference live on the radio, I genuinely thought Strachan was taking the pish. Looking and sounding like someone on borrowed time. Well done to the Happy Clappy brigade in Portugal. You had your wee week in the Sun with us scoring against a bunch of amatuers, then treated him like a Hero. Any of the past 3 managers would have been hounded out by now with this string of results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Starting to think Strachan maybe has a dislike of Steven Fletcher on a personal level. I personally think we should be trying to accommodate Griffiths but I appreciated playing one up front but surely it's obvious fletcher is just better than Chris Martin in almost every department for playing upfront his own?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Rossy said: He was 'outstanding' according to Strachan. The madness continues. He's basically trying to try and justify a sh^te decision in playing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 For last night's game griffiths would have been the better choice due to the runs he makes behind the defence. Martin is more the type that uses his bulk to muscle past defenders which was not what was needed by the way they covered him almost out the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, JECK said: Starting to think Strachan maybe has a dislike of Steven Fletcher on a personal level. I personally think we should be trying to accommodate Griffiths but I appreciated playing one up front but surely it's obvious fletcher is just better than Chris Martin in almost every department for playing upfront his own?? Eh? Fletcher was his first choice all through the last campaign. GS definitely does have a blind or stubborn spot about Martin though. Rhodes, McCormack and Griffiths have all performed as well or better than him in recent seasons at their clubs, but none of them have been given any sort of run to prove themselves while Martin starts our last three qualifiers despite looking torpid for every minute of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rude Gullit said: Eh? Fletcher was his first choice all through the last campaign. GS definitely does have a blind or stubborn spot about Martin though. Rhodes, McCormack and Griffiths have all performed as well or better than him in recent seasons at their clubs, but none of them have been given any sort of run to prove themselves while Martin starts our last three qualifiers despite looking torpid for every minute of them. Admittedly pure speculation but I just cannot understand, when your going with one upfront, that you don't go with fletcher. For bringing others into play there are few better going about than him, you cannot deny that (for all he gets slagged for his finishing) ps my reasoning was during the mid week pressers strachan touched on players being to concerned about tattoos, daft hair cuts and Instagram etc. The hairs obviously not a problem ha Edited October 9, 2016 by JECK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Didn't think Chris Martin was our worst performer last night but it says a lot about our hopes if he's the main man up front expected to lead us to the World Cup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broraboy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 hours ago, JECK said: Starting to think Strachan maybe has a dislike of Steven Fletcher on a personal level. I personally think we should be trying to accommodate Griffiths but I appreciated playing one up front but surely it's obvious fletcher is just better than Chris Martin in almost every department for playing upfront his own?? Would that dislike because he has tattoo's ?? Also what does Strachan have against 1. Jordan Rhodes and 2. Ross McCormack It all seems strange why he is our No.1 Striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, broraboy said: Would that dislike because he has tattoo's ?? Also what does Strachan have against 1. Jordan Rhodes and 2. Ross McCormack It all seems strange why he is our No.1 Striker As I said just speculating. Fletcher does look like your average hipster cheeky nando's type who loves top bantz. Probably everything strachan stands against. Then again they may get on really well. I just don't get how you can drop fletcher when your playing one upfront for Chris Martin - no offence to Martin but he is simply no where near good enough for that loan striker role compared to fletcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 On 09/10/2016 at 2:07 PM, neilser said: He's reproducing his club form for the national team - can't ask for more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleybear Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 It's hard to understand this one as 2 years ago him and Bryson at Derby were tearing every team to shreds in the championship and were never selected , low and behold he starts playing pish and the bold strschan starts him 2 games in a row , it just doesn't make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 On 10/9/2016 at 9:43 AM, fraz65 said: I'm glad you've all found a suitable scapegoat and can go on pretending that Scotland aren't dreadful at football. I'm glad you've found another thread to be a smart arse on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, valleybear said: It's hard to understand this one as 2 years ago him and Bryson at Derby were tearing every team to shreds in the championship and were never selected , low and behold he starts playing pish and the bold strschan starts him 2 games in a row , it just doesn't make sense Yes, Strachan seems to persist with players who are in poor form and bench form players. Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: I'm glad you've found another thread to be a smart arse on. With the amount of time you spend on football forums, I would have thought you would have devised some more constructive comments. Let's hope the team get a result tonight and they prove myself and all of the other doubters wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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