stactuso85 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Dominated most of the game but the lack of quality in execution in and around their box has been embarrassing at times. They've been forward meaningfully two or three times but could have had that many goals. And do we have anyone who can head the ball properly in the opposition box? May as well throw on Anya and Griffiths, they couldn't be worse and we know Griffiths can finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Angus_Young said: We were the better side there no doubt. We should also be 3-0 down. Ooooft. So true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, fraz65 said: The biggest factor for me compared to the start of Strachan's tenure is that we haven't managed to replace Brown and Mulgrew in midfield. Add to that Naismith and both Fletchers being two years older, the loss of club form in Anya, Snodgrass being less effective post injury and a really poor under-21s squad and the reasons for why we are struggling are pretty clear. The only real improvements have been the two left backs. We could change managers but it won't make any difference. If we got another manager who can't organise a team, you'd be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, munro7 said: Marshall has to do better at their goal but where was Tierney when the boy was getting a free header at the back post? Sadly, he was caught ball watching. He's still been our best player though in a pretty insipid half of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albathebrave Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 please please take Steven Fletcher off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, Hendricks said: At international level the keeper has to do way way better there. As soon as there was the collision at the other end you just knew they would score from that attack. They don't look like a great side by any means but.......... Yeah I sensed they would score on that attack too. Either I'm psychic or watching Scotland is very, very predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Snoddy's been poor, so disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Grant Hanley is a professional footballer. What will he be on a week, 30k at least? A scary thought. An absolutely atrocious footballer in clown's shoes. Paterson is not cut out for this level. Tierney has been superb though. Such a shame he's surrounded by second-rate footballers. Gap between supporting midfielders and attacks is shockingly bad. Whilst we've created the odd half-chance, we either relinquish the ball ourselves through error or there is no one there to assist. That half chance from Snodgrass' cross yet no one there in the middle. Slovakia aren't even that good. Their keeper is poor, and their defence shaky albeit a lot better than our centre halves. A decent side like Ireland, Iceland would go here and win. We won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Why the hell do we never, ever take shots from just outside the box ? We always seem to be looking for tap ins. Good question, because we have players who can hit them. Slovakia have looked pretty ordinary so far, it's quite galling to be losing to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary2 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, Toepoke said: Snoddy's been poor, so disappointing Agreed and last game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, scotlad said: Good question, because we have players who can hit them. Slovakia have looked pretty ordinary so far, it's quite galling to be losing to them. They should be 3-0 up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Parklife said: If we got another manager who can't organise a team, you'd be correct. We have this argument every 2-3 years though. It can't have been the manager's fault for the last 18 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Get Griffiths on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) We've got into some decent positions, particularly down the left but poor decision making has let us down as it has for years. There have also been numerous instances of getting to the by line and theres only one in the box which is directly as a result of the lack of energy and pace the midfield has. Tierney has been excellent and Paterson has done well defensively, where as the rest have been pedestrian, which is being kind. Edited October 11, 2016 by Mox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Can't quite decide if it's devastating or just plain bizarre that we're heading out just 3 month after Euro 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, fraz65 said: We have this argument every 2-3 years though. It can't have been the manager's fault for the last 18 years. It is this managers fault. these players could get to a tournament with a better manager who can change tactics, pick a team better and set us up to get results when they're needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: Grant Hanley is a professional footballer. What will he be on a week, 30k at least? A scary thought. An absolutely atrocious footballer in clown's shoes. Paterson is not cut out for this level. Tierney has been superb though. Such a shame he's surrounded by second-rate footballers. Gap between supporting midfielders and attacks is shockingly bad. Whilst we've created the odd half-chance, we either relinquish the ball ourselves through error or there is no one there to assist. That half chance from Snodgrass' cross yet no one there in the middle. Slovakia aren't even that good. Their keeper is poor, and their defence shaky albeit a lot better than our centre halves. A decent side like Ireland, Iceland would go here and win. We won't. Paterson has defended well, but his distribution is pretty poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I would put Robertson on in front of Tierney for the 2nd half. Snodgrass is not enjoying that role and as we saw on Saturday Robertson will bomb forward. We need a natural left footer to deliver from that side. Snodgrass should move more centrally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Snoddy's been poor, so disappointing He's been poor aye, but I question the wisdom in playing him in a position that he hasn't played for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Stu101 said: Get Griffiths on now. Maybe 10 mins max, see if the current team + team talk can make a difference. 10 mins max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Our right back was nowhere to be seen when they crossed it for their goal. We are losing not because they are better but because we are a farce. Darren Fletcher was an example of having an opportunity to try a long ranger but passed it instead. It's a sad state that now we are seeing our group is very average and here we are not even competing and giving it away. I would have thought after Gordon saw how close we were mathematically to losing out last time he would have learned every game needs to be played like it's our last and been more assertive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, fraz65 said: We have this argument every 2-3 years though. It can't have been the manager's fault for the last 18 years. It hasn't been. It is currently though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 feck, missed it, any changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Parklife said: It hasn't been. It is currently though. Who are the successful managers over this period? The five minutes that Walter Smith was in charge? If Strachan had quit after a similar period he would have been hailed as a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, JECK said: Can't quite decide if it's devastating or just plain bizarre that we're heading out just 3 month after Euro 2016. Sadly this reminds me of the last WC campaign, when we were all but out after 3 games, foreseen after 1 game, sacking was not till 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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