ceudmilefailte Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Laud said: Eh, loads of 5 pointers and below couldnt get tickets for france or Slovakia. Because all the 6 pointers and above buy tickets for street cred and then stay at home with the curtains shut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 23 hours ago, AustroSchotte said: I'm a Dingwallian / Stornowegian exiled to Wien used to watch lots of Scotland u 18s u 15s Scottish amateurs and the like when I was a boy in the late 80s early 90s in old Telford st and Victoria Park. I think we would have more of a home advantage at these venues. Maybe we can shift the WC qualifiers there ? Mind you the teams would be used to the smaller crowds !! Is that you Trevor? Who I met in the Vienna Oktoberfest last week? (Iain here!) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 4 hours ago, The Laud said: Eh, loads of 5 pointers and below couldnt get tickets for france or Slovakia. They would have if they had went to other games previous to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Dont go to frendlies people. It only lines the pockets of the sfa. Stop going as its just an excuse for the team to put even less effort in than usual. Mind you, if we put any less effort in than the last game we d end up scoring own goals by the sh1t load. Edited October 22, 2016 by bonny78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, McTeeko said: Is that you Trevor? Who I met in the Vienna Oktoberfest last week? (Iain here!) ? Nope sorry mate. Wien Oktoberfest ain't my cup of er...beer ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, McTeeko said: Is that you Trevor? Who I met in the Vienna Oktoberfest last week? (Iain here!) ? Naw that wiz me Iain. Ma doctor says ye better get yersel checked. And any sexual partners since our....er.....er.....Brokeback Mountain moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 P.s. - gonna shave next time ? Taps a ma thighs an ma baws are rid raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, AustroSchotte said: Nope sorry mate. Wien Oktoberfest ain't my cup of er...beer ! Aye right enough, Trevor who I met was from the Shetlands, no Stornaway ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 22 October 2016 at 0:50 AM, glesgadan said: I understand that. My original point was that for those folk like me that rejoined this year or those folk that it's their first membership there's no really been any advantage to it, as only had the opportunity for one away game up to now (before England). the guarantee of home tickets doesnae really sell it either. If I wanted home tickets only, I wouldnae be paying membership for the privilege when the discount offered doesnae cover it. if I paid full price with no membership, overall I would have paid less than those in the ssc who get discounted tickets. Could've gone to the Italy friendly, that would have put you on 1 point. That would have been enough to get a ticket for the Malta game, so you'd then be on 2 points. Wembley would see you on 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, aaid said: Could've gone to the Italy friendly, that would have put you on 1 point. That would have been enough to get a ticket for the Malta game, so you'd then be on 2 points. Wembley would see you on 3 points. So your supposed to use up your annual holidays and disposable income to have a chance of tickets via the points system. You are then supposed to continue to do this to remain on the ladder. There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that only allows for people well of enough to get tickets. Basically the traveling support is now just well off individuals who can do this because they have the time and probably no dependents. Self employed, single,married with no kids or retired fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 57 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: So your supposed to use up your annual holidays and disposable income to have a chance of tickets via the points system. You are then supposed to continue to do this to remain on the ladder. There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that only allows for people well of enough to get tickets. Basically the traveling support is now just well off individuals who can do this because they have the time and probably no dependents. Self employed, single,married with no kids or retired fits the bill. If you dont go to the pub every Friday & Saturday night and dont go to club football 4 or 5 trips abroad a year is affordable. Plus I go with my wife & son to all away games. We've all been on low points at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: If you dont go to the pub every Friday & Saturday night and dont go to club football 4 or 5 trips abroad a year is affordable. Plus I go with my wife & son to all away games. We've all been on low points at one time. Well I don't drink and don't go to club football, But I would like to build a family holiday around a Scotland game, the current scheme makes this impossible. I do take my kids to home games but haven't taken the wife since the the Scotland Sweden game in 1996, try explaining how your wining when you never actually have the ball. Might take her again when we retire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: So your supposed to use up your annual holidays and disposable income to have a chance of tickets via the points system. You are then supposed to continue to do this to remain on the ladder. There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that only allows for people well of enough to get tickets. Basically the traveling support is now just well off individuals who can do this because they have the time and probably no dependents. Self employed, single,married with no kids or retired fits the bill. Just harvest your points mate, loads cheaper and works out easier to get tickets in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: So your supposed to use up your annual holidays and disposable income to have a chance of tickets via the points system. You are then supposed to continue to do this to remain on the ladder. There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that only allows for people well of enough to get tickets. Basically the traveling support is now just well off individuals who can do this because they have the time and probably no dependents. Self employed, single,married with no kids or retired fits the bill. Im not well off, but manage just fine. Theres guys that I know that go to away games that earn a very small wage, it isnt a rich mans game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 did u get the point bout not going to friedlies cause it lines the sfa's pockets ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Well I don't drink and don't go to club football, But I would like to build a family holiday around a Scotland game, the current scheme makes this impossible. I do take my kids to home games but haven't taken the wife since the the Scotland Sweden game in 1996, try explaining how your wining when you never actually have the ball. Might take her again when we retire! Maybe you should get in touch with FIFA and demand that they schedule the international calendar around the school holidays so that you can have your family holiday and go to Scotland games at the same time. While you're at it, insist that all games are played in holiday resorts that have plentiful cheap flights, package deals and activities for the kids. Your post just reeks of entitlement. There is a system in place. It's not perfect but given an excess of demand over supply it's the best available. It is possible and easy to get on the points ladder if you prioritise and make some sacrifices along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Our very last game was during school holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, aaid said: Your post just reeks of entitlement. There is a system in place. It's not perfect but given an excess of demand over supply it's the best available. It is possible and easy to get on the points ladder if you prioritise and make some sacrifices along the way. I think he is emphasising the point that he can't take his family to a game...I'm guessing you don't have kids right and travel to all games with yer mates ? Right?? Football should be more family orientated and there should be some sort of system in place to allow travelling families. (If you can get the wife to go and look after the kids). The system is draconian, money fleecing and it needs to change ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, AustroSchotte said: I think he is emphasising the point that he can't take his family to a game...I'm guessing you don't have kids right and travel to all games with yer mates ? Right?? Football should be more family orientated and there should be some sort of system in place to allow travelling families. (If you can get the wife to go and look after the kids). The system is draconian, money fleecing and it needs to change ! Suggest an improvement then. Most games are available to everybody. If the boy actually wanted to build a holiday around a Scotland game he could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, deecie said: Suggest an improvement then. Most games are available to everybody. If the boy actually wanted to build a holiday around a Scotland game he could. Ring fence a percentage of tickets for families?? Don't know...personally I would only travel with my son's to the footy..my missus wouldn't want to be anywhere near it...oh and i'll no be sitting in the Scotland end when I go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 37 minutes ago, AustroSchotte said: Ring fence a percentage of tickets for families?? Don't know...personally I would only travel with my son's to the footy..my missus wouldn't want to be anywhere near it...oh and i'll no be sitting in the Scotland end when I go! Why should people with families be discriminated in favour of? In fact why should any group or sector of society be given any special status. The current system rewards loyalty and excludes no-one*. *aside from people who only want to go to the big games when it suits them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, AustroSchotte said: Ring fence a percentage of tickets for families?? Don't know...personally I would only travel with my son's to the footy..my missus wouldn't want to be anywhere near it...oh and i'll no be sitting in the Scotland end when I go! No absolutely not. Why should people with kids get special treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 22 minutes ago, kumnio said: No absolutely not. Why should people with kids get special treatment. In order for football to be more friendly and family orientated for away supporters. - English FA please take note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, aaid said: The current system rewards loyalty and excludes no-one*. -Who can pay an extra bit of wedge to be in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, AustroSchotte said: -Who can pay an extra bit of wedge to be in the system. Who prioritise following Scotland above other things, who use all their leave on that, who make sacrifices, who don't want a free ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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