Chris frae Killie Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Re-posting this because a couple of jokers decided to hijack the last post with Harry Potter nonsense.... I am hoping to Rally the troops and while I appreciate that, for many, November is not a favorable time of year to stand outside, there are a lot of us that do enjoy being outdoors in a big crowd having a sing song and mingling with locals. Now Trafalgar square is our traditional home from home when in London for matches against the Auld enemy and I have always gone there and it has been fantastic, however, there is a remembrance day event on in the morning into the early afternoon. I am led to believe that the square (or at least part of it) will be off limits while the stage etc. is cleared up. Also there is likely to be friends and family of fallen servicemen and women who want to pay their respects, therefore in my opinion, it is not a good idea for the Tartan Army to meet there . It would not be appropriate for kilt wearing football fans to be standing about drinking and singing, plus i would imagine the Met Police will not be slow to arrest anybody behaving like that, given the sensitivity of the date and location. Others have suggested Leicester Square, however, there is a Christmas market which, annoyingly, begins on the day of the match! This rules this location out as a mass gathering area. Hyde Park has been touted as a location, I don't have any opinions on this, perhaps someone more in the know could give pluses and minuses..... Buckingham Palace was also touted, however, I am guessing the Met Police might not agree with that!! Russell Square close to Euston and Kings Cross stations was mentioned. The people that mentioned this area also said there were lots of good boozers around here which would be good for a wee heat and pitstop! There will be a lot of fans coming into London at Euston and Kings Cross so this would appear to be the best option..... Euston Square underground gives direct access to Wembley Park station so no buggering about getting there! Although the side are not performing, I am well looking forward to this! It will be my 20th away match although I have not been away as much as I would have liked recently!! Thoughts.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 If it's raining then Hyde Park would be useless as it would be a complete mud bath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham of Montrose Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It would be like a gathering at Bellahouston Park before a home game. Away from the bright lights and Nothing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Graham of Montrose said: It would be like a gathering at Bellahouston Park before a home game. Away from the bright lights and Nothing there. Agreed. I still think from what I have heard, Russell Square would be best, however, I have never been there so it would be best to get info from someone on the ground.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham of Montrose Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It looks like it will be given a miss this time around. Think I'll be around the Leicester Sq./ Covent Garden area. Plenty of boozers there but no particular gathering point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Thanks to Ambassador who has given his insight into Russell Square. Sounds good. Willie Millers Tache also suggested Shepherds Market, which he says is good for outdoor drinking with several pubs around. Edited October 19, 2016 by Chris frae Killie Misquoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podgers1903 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Russell Square has next to nothing round about, no bars, its just a big grassed area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I've established the done thing these days for the Tartan Army is to head to an Irish Bar. It's a head shaker I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geed Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Got tickets for Ted Christophers gig at Crystals next to Wembley so going to that in afternoon and find somewhere go in the morning for breaky and a pint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) ive heard leicester square. don't think a market should really be a problem? to be honest, London should really be catering for this. Glasgow put on George Square/Merchant City for away fans. High risk game and no people plan seems a missed opportunity. Edited October 21, 2016 by PapofGlencoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, PapofGlencoe said: ive heard leicester square. don't think a market should really be a problem? No chance, if Leicester square Christmas market is like any other I have been to, it will be mobbed and with all the stalls etc. on it will be hard to move, nevermind find an area to stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 11:41 AM, podgers1903 said: Russell Square has next to nothing round about, no bars, its just a big grassed area Plenty of bars within short stagger of Russell Square. Having said that, I don't remember too many at Trafalgar Square! https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pub near russell square&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=51522830,-123758,199&tbm=lcl&tbs=lf_msr:-1,lf_od:-1,lf_oh:-1,lf:1,lf_ui:9,lf_pqs:EAE&fll=51.52384328549489,-0.12601996537478044&fspn=0.010934304118933369,0.018453699140496882&fz=16&oll=51.5225883,-0.12192155&ospn=0.011749031085145134,0.01399048418615792&oz=15&qop=1&rlfi=hd:;si: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, PapofGlencoe said: to be honest, London should really be catering for this. Glasgow put on George Square/Merchant City for away fans. High risk game and no people plan seems a missed opportunity. Agreed, I guess they just have too much on their plate with the remembrance day events! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 I have been spreading the word on this on the Tartan Army Facebook page and it is starting generate quite a bit of interest. Let's keep this rolling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyhaggis666 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Covent Garden is pedestrianised with loads of pubs on all the side streets off it. Hyde park nothing there. Russel square again not the greatest area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham of Montrose Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Leicester Square / Covent Garden seems the best area for bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angusfifer Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I'd agree with the Covent Garden and Leicester Square suggestion. It could be hosing down, so options for both indoors and outdoors. Russell Square doesn't have any great appeal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Russell Square...Hyde Park - HAHAHA! Better options: Covent Garden Camden Angel Clapham Carnaby Street Soho Even Shepherds Market... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Brummie Hibs said: Russell Square...Hyde Park - HAHAHA! Better options: Covent Garden Camden Angel Clapham Carnaby Street Soho Even Shepherds Market... Quiet you. Hyde Park is great, if you're new to London you should definitely go there prematch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, deecie said: Quiet you. Hyde Park is great, if you're new to London you should definitely go there prematch. Ahhhh...erm.....yes! Can I recommend the Serpentine Gallery Cafe/Bar - the TA will be loved and welcomed there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyhaggis666 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Personally I think Covent Garden/Leicester Square are better options as they have quite large pedestrianised areas although both will already be full to bursting with tourists. I think I'll be drinking in Kilburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris frae Killie Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Graham of Montrose said: Leicester Square / Covent Garden seems the best area for bars. Leicester Square is a definite no go as there is a Christmas market starting the day of the game, so there will be no room to move. http://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/event/44409592-christmas-in-leicester-square#htx4dqFOEQTYE0sF.97 I have had a look and while I agree Covent Garden looks like a great setting with lots of outdoor bars and it is pedestrianised, it isn't really a square. I don't mean to sound pedantic, I couldn't care less if it was a circle or a pentagon but in terms of a big crowd (potentially 10,000+) gathering together, we would be spread around the large building in the middle of the 'square'. I don't know, I am not writing this off as it has many plus points. Russell square does not have so many bars around it as you say, although there are a few in the side streets around it and plenty more within short 5-10 minute walk. The three times in the past I have been to Wembley to follow Scotland, I have gone to Trafalgar Square and everyone has been drinking carry outs so pubs don't really come into it that much, for most. What Russell Square does have, is that it is a large open space within very short walk of the two major stations (Kings X and Euston) that most fans will arrive into and also there is a tube station at Euston that will take us straight to Wembley Park. Edited October 26, 2016 by Chris frae Killie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Chris frae Killie said: Leicester Square is a definite no go as there is a Christmas market starting the day of the game, so there will be no room to move. http://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/event/44409592-christmas-in-leicester-square#htx4dqFOEQTYE0sF.97 I have had a look and while I agree Covent Garden looks like a great setting with lots of outdoor bars and it is pedestrianised, it isn't really a square. I don't mean to sound pedantic, I couldn't care less if it was a circle or a pentagon but in terms of a big crowd (potentially 10,000+) gathering together, we would be spread around the large building in the middle of the 'square'. I don't know, I am not writing this off as it has many plus points. Russell square does not have so many bars around it as you say, although there are a few in the side streets around it and plenty more within short 5-10 minute walk. The three times in the past I have been to Wembley to follow Scotland, I have gone to Trafalgar Square and everyone has been drinking carry outs so pubs don't really come into it that much, for most. What Russell Square does have, is that it is a large open space within very short walk of the two major stations (Kings X and Euston) that most fans will arrive into and also there is a tube station at Euston that will take us straight to Wembley Park. Agreed, Hyde Park is the place to go. Last time I was there a good band was playing and there was a few pop-up bars and food trucks. Perfect fanzone IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Chris frae Killie said: Leicester Square is a definite no go as there is a Christmas market starting the day of the game, so there will be no room to move. http://www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/event/44409592-christmas-in-leicester-square#htx4dqFOEQTYE0sF.97 I have had a look and while I agree Covent Garden looks like a great setting with lots of outdoor bars and it is pedestrianised, it isn't really a square. I don't mean to sound pedantic, I couldn't care less if it was a circle or a pentagon but in terms of a big crowd (potentially 10,000+) gathering together, we would be spread around the large building in the middle of the 'square'. I don't know, I am not writing this off as it has many plus points. Russell square does not have so many bars around it as you say, although there are a few in the side streets around it and plenty more within short 5-10 minute walk. The three times in the past I have been to Wembley to follow Scotland, I have gone to Trafalgar Square and everyone has been drinking carry outs so pubs don't really come into it that much, for most. What Russell Square does have, is that it is a large open space within very short walk of the two major stations (Kings X and Euston) that most fans will arrive into and also there is a tube station at Euston that will take us straight to Wembley Park. If you look at anything that involves a large gathering of people in the open, be that a concert, demonstration, protest or whatever then it is one of two places, usually Trafalgar Square or Hyde Park for something really large > 20000 or so. There's a good reason for that and it's the same reason why the remembrance commemorations are in Trafalgar Square. There isn't anywhere else that's remotely suitable. Leicester Square is too small and access is problematic. Russell Square's gardens FFS. If you turn up in anything more than a couple of dozen and start drinking, the Met will be moving you on. Just find a boozer like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee McGeek Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, aaid said: If you look at anything that involves a large gathering of people in the open, be that a concert, demonstration, protest or whatever then it is one of two places, usually Trafalgar Square or Hyde Park for something really large > 20000 or so. There's a good reason for that and it's the same reason why the remembrance commemorations are in Trafalgar Square. There isn't anywhere else that's remotely suitable. Leicester Square is too small and access is problematic. Russell Square's gardens FFS. If you turn up in anything more than a couple of dozen and start drinking, the Met will be moving you on. Just find a boozer like everyone else. Will the ATAC not publish something soon with do's and donts surrounding this fixture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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