Dunty Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The last few years, both home and away, the atmosphere has been really lacking. Of course performances play their part, but even before games it's quiet. Before the Slovakia game I think there was one sporadic chant before the team's came out, then the anthems, then a bit of chanting before it died out all too early. I put it down to an aging support. Not that older fans are not going to sing, I think everyone joins in if the chants get going, but more that they're not going to create new chants or get a real buzz going about the place. There's only so many times you can sing we'll be coming and doh a deer in 90 minutes. Celtic had that same problem. Parkhead was very quiet. Then the Green Brigade came along, and although a lot of what they do re-flags, flares and political messages are not everyone's cup of tea, they have introduced a heap of new songs into games while also revising some old ones. Against Man City the place was deafening, full on noise for 90 minutes and yet I don't think you heard the same chant twice. There's chants there that we should be using - namely their own for Kieran Tierney. Anyway, do we need a similar group with Scotland? Young guys given their own section at Hampden, introducing new chants, maybe singing some old Scottish folk songs, and trying to revise a tired song list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 No, next question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, aaid said: No, next question What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide Tackle Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 In theory its a great idea but will never catch on or be supported by the tartan army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Would like to see a better atmosphere at Hampden as it's been poor for years. A dedicated singing section without the political bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunty Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Slide Tackle said: In theory its a great idea but will never catch on or be supported by the tartan army Does your second sentence not explain a big part of the problem? Edited October 20, 2016 by Dunty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 We've already got plenty pricks with high opinions of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, girvanTA said: Would like to see a better atmosphere at Hampden as it's been poor for years. A dedicated singing section without the political bullshit So your not a flag waving anthem singing guy then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) The atmosphere back in the vogts era was outstanding. That carried on for a few years but the songs are s*ht and the team are worse. And no real indy support was the hammer nail in the coffin. Should have been loud and clear. Edited October 20, 2016 by Armitage Shanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Something definitely needs to be done. the support has become boring and the song book is......well it's boring too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 You hear good songs in the pubs We were singing one in Bratislava, really simple but went on for ages "We're on our way We're on our way To the world cup, we're on our way How we get there I don't know How we get there I don't care All I know's that Scotland's on our way" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 11 hours ago, Dunty said: The last few years, both home and away, the atmosphere has been really lacking. Of course performances play their part, but even before games it's quiet. Before the Slovakia game I think there was one sporadic chant before the team's came out, then the anthems, then a bit of chanting before it died out all too early. I put it down to an aging support. Not that older fans are not going to sing, I think everyone joins in if the chants get going, but more that they're not going to create new chants or get a real buzz going about the place. There's only so many times you can sing we'll be coming and doh a deer in 90 minutes. Celtic had that same problem. Parkhead was very quiet. Then the Green Brigade came along, and although a lot of what they do re-flags, flares and political messages are not everyone's cup of tea, they have introduced a heap of new songs into games while also revising some old ones. Against Man City the place was deafening, full on noise for 90 minutes and yet I don't think you heard the same chant twice. There's chants there that we should be using - namely their own for Kieran Tierney. Anyway, do we need a similar group with Scotland? Young guys given their own section at Hampden, introducing new chants, maybe singing some old Scottish folk songs, and trying to revise a tired song list? I think thats not a bad idea in theory (minus all the political nonsense), our home support these days is dreadful, it must be at least 20 years since we have been close the the noise generated by the "Hampden Roar" - a safe standing / singing section would be a start, however there are probably too many tanked up day trippers for this to be taken seriously. Our home support is the worst it's ever been...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustroSchotte Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Yes we need this for sure football has modernised and so should the fans...I find in the last 25 years that Scotland matches have always been a bit dire... I am well in favour of political messages / banners to get one over the opposition Imagine at Wembley "Some hate the English, we don't - your just s" the possibilities are endless...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 59 minutes ago, Doakes said: You hear good songs in the pubs We were singing one in Bratislava, really simple but went on for ages "We're on our way We're on our way To the world cup, we're on our way How we get there I don't know How we get there I don't care All I know's that Scotland's on our way" Was that in the wee boozer in an alley around the corner from the Scottish and Irish bar ? The one with the gorgeous barmaids ? We heard that in a wee bar in Trvana and carried on singing it for the rest of the trip, cracking wee ditty ! I thought the " you only scored 3, you only scored 3, how sh*t must you be, you only scored 3 " chant was amusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 11 hours ago, Dunty said: The last few years, both home and away, the atmosphere has been really lacking. Of course performances play their part, but even before games it's quiet. Before the Slovakia game I think there was one sporadic chant before the team's came out, then the anthems, then a bit of chanting before it died out all too early. I put it down to an aging support. Not that older fans are not going to sing, I think everyone joins in if the chants get going, but more that they're not going to create new chants or get a real buzz going about the place. There's only so many times you can sing we'll be coming and doh a deer in 90 minutes. Celtic had that same problem. Parkhead was very quiet. Then the Green Brigade came along, and although a lot of what they do re-flags, flares and political messages are not everyone's cup of tea, they have introduced a heap of new songs into games while also revising some old ones. Against Man City the place was deafening, full on noise for 90 minutes and yet I don't think you heard the same chant twice. There's chants there that we should be using - namely their own for Kieran Tierney. Anyway, do we need a similar group with Scotland? Young guys given their own section at Hampden, introducing new chants, maybe singing some old Scottish folk songs, and trying to revise a tired song list? I think it's a good idea but like it's been said, there are too many supporters who think they are running the TA and have way too high a personal opinion of themselves and self importance. The song list with the exception of the odd one or two is dire. I've said on a few occasions that certain 'club' songs could easily be adapted to Scotland but because (*insert club) sing it, then I'm not. The idea of a singing section is a good idea as they atmosphere like the team in recent years, is well, crap to say the least. I don't think it would happen which is a pity as the 12th man is needing to improve as much as the team does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, jock strap said: Was that in the wee boozer in an alley around the corner from the Scottish and Irish bar ? The one with the gorgeous barmaids ? We heard that in a wee bar in Trvana and carried on singing it for the rest of the trip, cracking wee ditty ! I thought the " you only scored 3, you only scored 3, how sh*t must you be, you only scored 3 " chant was amusing That's the one! One of the barmaids in particular kept filming us all on her phone. She was beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Doakes said: That's the one! One of the barmaids in particular kept filming us all on her phone. She was beautiful Shut the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 11 hours ago, deecie said: We've already got plenty pricks with high opinions of themselves. This, and Ultras are like the self important pricks we already have times 1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, aaid said: This, and Ultras are like the self important pricks we already have times 1000. It could be a singing section without the Ultras element to it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chits And Pieces Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Ultra groups and singing sections work at club level because they get together regularly. Half a dozen times a year with Scotland isn't going to have the same effect, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chits And Pieces Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 11 hours ago, deecie said: We've already got plenty pricks with high opinions of themselves. Then you have attitudes like this, people who want to improve the atmosphere and support the team more vocally obviously must think they are better than everyone else. You might be happy slurring your words to "we'll be coming" twice a game, but not everyone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chits And Pieces Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, AustroSchotte said: Imagine at Wembley "Some hate the English, we don't - your just s" the possibilities are endless...! Haha that would be brilliant actually. The sweetie wives in the support would be complaining about "the good reputation of the TA" being dragged through the mud though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Chits And Pieces said: Then you have attitudes like this, people who want to improve the atmosphere and support the team more vocally obviously must think they are better than everyone else. You might be happy slurring your words to "we'll be coming" twice a game, but not everyone is. well said ! That'll be us on the list now, don't worry about it, you'll receive a few posts about 'the famous' and a photo of Jimmy Calderwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chits And Pieces Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, jock strap said: I thought the " you only scored 3, you only scored 3, how sh*t must you be, you only scored 3 " chant was amusing Does stuff like that not defeat the purpose of having a singing section to support the team though? Edited October 21, 2016 by Chits And Pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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